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Thread: Bale not in Spurs squad....

  1. #11

    Re: Bale not in Spurs squad....

    Quote Originally Posted by billy.ronson View Post
    Just hope this apparent dip doesn't tarnish his legacy with Wales.
    He's been less than average for Wales for a long time already

  2. #12

    Re: Bale not in Spurs squad....

    People used to say that Whitts did not like football, I don't think that's true, but Bale has struck me as someone who's fallen out of love with the game based on what's happened with him at Real Madrid Spurs. To be more accurate, I'd say Bale has fallen out of love with club football because I still think he enjoys playing for his country, but the problem is that what is happening to him at his club is bound to impact on his performances for his country and I'd have very low expectations of what he could do in the Euros this summer if they go ahead - after that, I wouldn't rule out him retiring from the game.

  3. #13

    Re: Bale not in Spurs squad....

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    People used to say that Whitts did not like football, I don't think that's true, but Bale has struck me as someone who's fallen out of love with the game based on what's happened with him at Real Madrid Spurs. To be more accurate, I'd say Bale has fallen out of love with club football because I still think he enjoys playing for his country, but the problem is that what is happening to him at his club is bound to impact on his performances for his country and I'd have very low expectations of what he could do in the Euros this summer if they go ahead - after that, I wouldn't rule out him retiring from the game.
    There MIGHT be some truth in that, but to be fair he hasn't been given much game time when fit, which is not speculation but fact.

    Regardless of attitude or workrate, the guy needs to be given a run of games to get his confidence up. ..... confidence in his abilities, confidence in his physical durability.

    I'm pretty sure that part of this perception of him as being lazy or is uninterested comes from the fact he tries not to overexert himself in case he gets injured again.

    It think it's just a fact for him that he can't be as full on in terms of workrate as he was in the past and is the type of guy who relies on moments of brilliance....which is something that goes against him in a modern game that relies on EVERYONE to be running 10km every game.

    That said, I seem to remember him heading a ball off the line against Brighton.....so , he is not against putting in a defensive shift.

    We need to to see him play 10 games in a row before judging his attitude. Until then it's just total speculation and (questionable) second hand info.

  4. #14

    Re: Bale not in Spurs squad....

    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Wright View Post
    There MIGHT be some truth in that, but to be fair he hasn't been given much game time when fit, which is not speculation but fact.

    Regardless of attitude or workrate, the guy needs to be given a run of games to get his confidence up. ..... confidence in his abilities, confidence in his physical durability.

    I'm pretty sure that part of this perception of him as being lazy or is uninterested comes from the fact he tries not to overexert himself in case he gets injured again.

    It think it's just a fact for him that he can't be as full on in terms of workrate as he was in the past and is the type of guy who relies on moments of brilliance....which is something that goes against him in a modern game that relies on EVERYONE to be running 10km every game.

    That said, I seem to remember him heading a ball off the line against Brighton.....so , he is not against putting in a defensive shift.

    We need to to see him play 10 games in a row before judging his attitude. Until then it's just total speculation and (questionable) second hand info.
    If I were his manager, especially at a club like Spurs where managers come under pressure when the team is having a run like they currently are, there is no way I would give Bale ten games, you only need to see how he has jogged through his appearances with Spurs so far to see he’s not worth a place in the starting line up.

    I don’t want to knock someone who is arguably Wales’ greatest ever footballer, but I can’t help thinking that attitudes towards him would be different if he wasn’t who he is.

  5. #15

    Re: Bale not in Spurs squad....

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    If I were his manager, especially at a club like Spurs where managers come under pressure when the team is having a run like they currently are, there is no way I would give Bale ten games, you only need to see how he has jogged through his appearances with Spurs so far to see heís not worth a place in the starting line up.

    I donít want to knock someone who is arguably Walesí greatest ever footballer, but I canít help thinking that attitudes towards him would be different if he wasnít who he is.
    Agreed, he can do no wrong as far as Welsh football fans are concerned, and he's earnt that. Club football wise he seems to have given up. Easy to say that looking in though.

    I have the same calf injury that he does and my confidence has gone running wise (granted he's got the best medical treatment in the world, but also I don't run anywhere near as fast or explosively as he does) 🤣

  6. #16

    Re: Bale not in Spurs squad....

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    If I were his manager, especially at a club like Spurs where managers come under pressure when the team is having a run like they currently are, there is no way I would give Bale ten games, you only need to see how he has jogged through his appearances with Spurs so far to see heís not worth a place in the starting line up.

    I donít want to knock someone who is arguably Walesí greatest ever footballer, but I canít help thinking that attitudes towards him would be different if he wasnít who he is.
    How many games have you seen him play ?

    Brighton and West Ham ?

    I saw him in the West Ham game and he looked a bit rusty , which is to be expected, but he was definitely trying.

    As far as Brighton goes, spurs lost 1-0 . I didn't see the full 90. I saw him heading a ball off the line. What about the rest of the team ? Were they all impeccable ? Cmon......

    I think his nationality is a moot point . Judging ANY player on the amount of game time that Bale has had is totally unfair. I don't see any discussion beyond that really. From my point of view, anything beyond that is just noise that is filling a void of info regarding his current situation.

    Like any other player, he needs to be given a run of games, he needs to score, get some praise , get some confidence. These basics don't change just because you are (or have been until recently) one of the world most revered footballers.

    If he was playing at a team like Everton under Ancelotti, he'd get game time and he would have scored 4 or 5 goals by now. I'm certain of that.

  7. #17

    Re: Bale not in Spurs squad....

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Thatís just weird.....why would Spurs spend so much on a players wages and never play him?
    Deal , they manager didn't want and Madrid needed to move of the books for a while , I suspect , at least this exonerates Zidane.

  8. #18

    Re: Bale not in Spurs squad....

    Quote Originally Posted by Monster munch View Post
    Yeah itís all a bit weird now. 20minutes here, the odd half there. Mourinho is really getting exposed with his negative tactics and Bale just dosnít seem to fit into his defence minded system. Theyíve been awful for a while now and same thing happening for Deli Ali. Another creative player being ignored. He was supposed to go to PSG but Levi blocked it so why keep them if they donít play?
    Sad waste really and dosnít help us in the slightest for Wales with the euros coming up.
    Negative tactics ? Did you see the Spurs game with Everton last night ?

  9. #19

    Re: Bale not in Spurs squad....

    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Wright View Post
    How many games have you seen him play ?

    Brighton and West Ham ?

    I saw him in the West Ham game and he looked a bit rusty , which is to be expected, but he was definitely trying.

    As far as Brighton goes, spurs lost 1-0 . I didn't see the full 90. I saw him heading a ball off the line. What about the rest of the team ? Were they all impeccable ? Cmon......

    I think his nationality is a moot point . Judging ANY player on the amount of game time that Bale has had is totally unfair. I don't see any discussion beyond that really. From my point of view, anything beyond that is just noise that is filling a void of info regarding his current situation.

    Like any other player, he needs to be given a run of games, he needs to score, get some praise , get some confidence. These basics don't change just because you are (or have been until recently) one of the world most revered footballers.

    If he was playing at a team like Everton under Ancelotti, he'd get game time and he would have scored 4 or 5 goals by now. I'm certain of that.
    Im pretty certain Ancellotti wouldnt pick him.

    He was utter crap the other night for Spurs.

    Lacking in just about everything.

  10. #20

    Re: Bale not in Spurs squad....

    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Wright View Post
    How many games have you seen him play ?

    Brighton and West Ham ?

    I saw him in the West Ham game and he looked a bit rusty , which is to be expected, but he was definitely trying.

    As far as Brighton goes, spurs lost 1-0 . I didn't see the full 90. I saw him heading a ball off the line. What about the rest of the team ? Were they all impeccable ? Cmon......

    I think his nationality is a moot point . Judging ANY player on the amount of game time that Bale has had is totally unfair. I don't see any discussion beyond that really. From my point of view, anything beyond that is just noise that is filling a void of info regarding his current situation.

    Like any other player, he needs to be given a run of games, he needs to score, get some praise , get some confidence. These basics don't change just because you are (or have been until recently) one of the world most revered footballers.

    If he was playing at a team like Everton under Ancelotti, he'd get game time and he would have scored 4 or 5 goals by now. I'm certain of that.
    Those two, Marine. Stoke, a couple of Europa League matches (at least), Wycombe, Leicester, Liverpool - there's quite a few to choose from;-

    https://www.soccerbase.com/players/p...layer_id=43700

    and he has scored goals, but there's been no evidence of any progression in his performances, in fact it could be said they're getting worse.

    There doesn't seem to be anger when he's withdrawn and he seems happy enough just to stay on the bench. I'm not being critical for the sake of it, but his attitude raises a lot of questions and any squad member at Spurs would surely be pissed off if Mourinho came out and announced Bale was getting a ten game run in the team because I can't see he's done anything to justify such special treatment since he's been at the club.

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