Songs Of Praise

[The Bloop]

Could a t-Rex even get his hands into the right position?

The Triceratops had it sorted with the horns representing the father, son and holy spirit.

[Tuerto]

I'd say music too. Not Christian rock, but lots of orchestral music from a few centuries back was written for religion.

You could add law and order and culture. Disclaimer; I'm not religious, before someone attempts to have a go at me because kids die of leukemia.

[Heisenberg]

Hard to answer this in a few sentences, it's a very good question. Not being flippant but it's not God's will that children ,or anyone for that matter, should die from prematurely from horrible disease. We are born into a world of suffering and pain, much of it manmade, much of it through our battles with nature and disease. You and I will suffer, have suffered, and the Bible's message is that God shares our pain in this world and offers comfort to those that seek it through him.

I had a very good friend who died as a young adult leaving a wife and baby. He was a bricklayer by trade but gave it up to become a priest. He was a joy to be with and he honestly and openly took on board the suffering of his parishioners at a very personal level. He offered love, comfort and the promise of faith in the same way that Christians believe God does.

He was a 'brittle' diabetic, hard to control and he knew he would be unlikely to live a long life. But he filled his life with purpose and love, and not once did he complain' why me'. Why didn't God save him you may ask? For what? To live a few more years with an increasing amount of suffering that is linked to his condition. We look at the physical, God at the spiritual and the answer might be wrapped up in that.

I seem to be like someone trying to explain to you how a car engine works when you will find the complete answer by looking though the manual. And you know the manual I'm talking about...from the Greek it's called 'The Book'

"Why didn't God save him, you may ask..."

Not really, as I was more interested in why your God chose to create this planet and allow millions of innocent children to suffer as a result.

I've never seen anybody explain this in a way other than "it is what it is" basically. You have done the same.

I've read The Bible by the way (well, the Old Testament anyway... The New Testament didn't have the enough theatrics to keep me entertained). I couldn't find the answers to why innocent children suffer as a consequence of simply being born... Which chapter and verse will provide that answer?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

"Why didn't God save him, you may ask..."

Not really, as I was more interested in why your God chose to create this planet and allow millions of innocent children to suffer as a result.

I've never seen anybody explain this in a way other than "it is what it is" basically. You have done the same.

I've read The Bible by the way (well, the Old Testament anyway... The New Testament didn't have the enough theatrics to keep me entertained). I couldn't find the answers to why innocent children suffer as a consequence of simply being born... Which chapter and verse will provide that answer?

“Surely I was sinful at birth, / sinful from the time my mother conceived me” (Psalm 51:5). “Even from birth the wicked go astray; / from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies” (Psalm 58:3).

[lisvaneblue]

“Surely I was sinful at birth, / sinful from the time my mother conceived me” (Psalm 51:5). “Even from birth the wicked go astray; / from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies” (Psalm 58:3).

David's psalms...you should read the background to them and then it may make sense.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

David's psalms...you should read the background to them and then it may make sense.

Tis all folklore. Very interesting in that respect but deities are for the birds.

[surge]

"Why didn't God save him, you may ask..."

Not really, as I was more interested in why your God chose to create this planet and allow millions of innocent children to suffer as a result.

I've never seen anybody explain this in a way other than "it is what it is" basically. You have done the same.

I've read The Bible by the way (well, the Old Testament anyway... The New Testament didn't have the enough theatrics to keep me entertained). I couldn't find the answers to why innocent children suffer as a consequence of simply being born... Which chapter and verse will provide that answer?

There was a programme about Sandhurst on several years ago where one training officer described that (wording changed due to i) lack of miliarty knowledge and ii) years since it was on but to give the gist of it) everyone ends up praying in the trenches.

If religion is used to provide reasonable comfort to the innocent child, as opposed to delusional hope or telling them they suffer because they hadn't said enough prayers, what is the harm? They may even become a morally stronger person, more charitable/kinder person because of it. Just means that roads are slightly busier on a Sunday morning and at other points in the week/year.

[life on mars]

"Why didn't God save him, you may ask..."

Not really, as I was more interested in why your God chose to create this planet and allow millions of innocent children to suffer as a result.

I've never seen anybody explain this in a way other than "it is what it is" basically. You have done the same.

I've read The Bible by the way (well, the Old Testament anyway... The New Testament didn't have the enough theatrics to keep me entertained). I couldn't find the answers to why innocent children suffer as a consequence of simply being born... Which chapter and verse will provide that answer?

Why didn't you apply for the God job your always judging others from your heavenly keyboard .

[lisvaneblue]

"Why didn't God save him, you may ask..."

Not really, as I was more interested in why your God chose to create this planet and allow millions of innocent children to suffer as a result.

I've never seen anybody explain this in a way other than "it is what it is" basically. You have done the same.

I've read The Bible by the way (well, the Old Testament anyway... The New Testament didn't have the enough theatrics to keep me entertained). I couldn't find the answers to why innocent children suffer as a consequence of simply being born... Which chapter and verse will provide that answer?

Don't blame God for innocent children suffering, they are the worlds children and there is no reason why mankind should allow it.

The way the world is birth/life means pain, disease, sorrow and death for each of us. We are told these are the fruits of sin and we know, whether believers or not, that love, kindness, compassion, understanding, forgiveness and truth are the ways to overcome sin. And I'd add humour to that because it is uniquely human. But the greatest of these is love..

[Croesy Blue]

Can’t believe god can’t even zap diabetes better.

A Mars bar is literally more powerful than god.

[The Bloop]

"Why didn't God save him, you may ask..."

Not really, as I was more interested in why your God chose to create this planet and allow millions of innocent children to suffer as a result.

I've never seen anybody explain this in a way other than "it is what it is" basically. You have done the same.

I've read The Bible by the way (well, the Old Testament anyway... The New Testament didn't have the enough theatrics to keep me entertained). I couldn't find the answers to why innocent children suffer as a consequence of simply being born... Which chapter and verse will provide that answer?

As a father of a severely disabled child I'm always fascinated with religious people's answers to these types of questions. Have yet to see an answer that gives a satisfactory explanation.

[life on mars]

As a father of a severely disabled child I'm always fascinated with religious people's answers to these types of questions. Have yet to see an answer that gives a satisfactory explanation.

Love is the answer, and I guess you supply it in bucket-loads

[Heisenberg]

“Surely I was sinful at birth, / sinful from the time my mother conceived me” (Psalm 51:5). “Even from birth the wicked go astray; / from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies” (Psalm 58:3).

I wonder what Lisvaneblue believes that means...

[Tuerto]

I wonder what Lisvaneblue believes that means...

Do you reckon that plenty of people with faith believe the text that TBG posted? I don't, i know plenty of people with faith and most of them haven't a clue about what they purportedly believe . Generally, they're a bit of a contradiction, but decent people. The one thing i do envy about those with faith, is the belief that a loved one is in a 'better place' once they have died, and the fact that they believe that they'll be together again. That must bring plenty of comfort.

[Heisenberg]

There was a programme about Sandhurst on several years ago where one training officer described that (wording changed due to i) lack of miliarty knowledge and ii) years since it was on but to give the gist of it) everyone ends up praying in the trenches.

If religion is used to provide reasonable comfort to the innocent child, as opposed to delusional hope or telling them they suffer because they hadn't said enough prayers, what is the harm? They may even become a morally stronger person, more charitable/kinder person because of it. Just means that roads are slightly busier on a Sunday morning and at other points in the week/year.

Sorry, you seem to have responded to the wrong post. Not sure of the relevance yours has to mine.

[Tuerto]

Sorry, you seem to have responded to the wrong post. Not sure of the relevance yours has to mine.

I think that he's saying that when people are in the shit (Trenches) they get desperate (Praying) It doesn't have to be that extreme for me to sell out, i'd be willing to do a deal with Lucifer if i ran out of Custard Cream biscuits.

[Heisenberg]

Why didn't you apply for the God job your always judging others from your heavenly keyboard .

Sounds like blasphemy to me. Go and repent.

[Heisenberg]

Do you reckon that plenty of people with faith believe the text that TBG posted? I don't, i know plenty of people with faith and most of them haven't a clue about what they purportedly believe . Generally, they're a bit of a contradiction, but decent people. The one thing i do envy about those with faith, is the belief that a loved one is in a 'better place' once they have died, and the fact that they believe that they'll be together again. That must bring plenty of comfort.

This is what I genuinely struggle with. People can pick and choose what parts they believe from The Bible, yet it's supposedly God's words and therefore the ultimate truth.

I'm not having a go at people for choosing religion as a comfort... I'm not a complete t**t. What I am is resentful of a large percentage of religious people turning their eyes away from some of the facts that they don't wish to face because it doesn't suit their argument.

I think that's fair.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

This is what I genuinely struggle with. People can pick and choose what parts they believe from The Bible, yet it's supposedly God's words and therefore the ultimate truth.

I'm not having a go at people for choosing religion as a comfort... I'm not a complete t**t. What I am is resentful of a large percentage of religious people turning their eyes away from some of the facts that they don't wish to face because it doesn't suit their argument.

I think that's fair.

'God' breached copyright as a great many of the stories in The Bible were sourced from preceding religions.

[stevo]

What I am is resentful of a large percentage of religious people turning their eyes away from some of the facts that they don't wish to face because it doesn't suit their argument.

Confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance have a lot to answer for when it comes to religious beliefs.

[Heisenberg]

I think that he's saying that when people are in the shit (Trenches) they get desperate (Praying) It doesn't have to be that extreme for me to sell out, i'd be willing to do a deal with Lucifer if i ran out of Custard Cream biscuits.

I think I've responded to this post in my previous post as well

[lardy]

Whatever happened to truthpaste?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Whatever happened to truthpaste?

I hope he wasn't called up.

[Heisenberg]

Don't blame God for innocent children suffering, they are the worlds children and there is no reason why mankind should allow it.

The way the world is birth/life means pain, disease, sorrow and death for each of us. We are told these are the fruits of sin and we know, whether believers or not, that love, kindness, compassion, understanding, forgiveness and truth are the ways to overcome sin. And I'd add humour to that because it is uniquely human. But the greatest of these is love..

I don't blame him, I don't believe in him.

Once again, the answer I'm getting for 'why does God allow innocent children to suffer?' is "it is what it is" with a dose of it's not God's faults it's humanity's fault.

Please explain how it's mankind's fault for a baby dying of leukemia (for example)?

Hypothetically, how could mankind prevent it from ever happening - if we had the chance?

[lisvaneblue]

I don't blame him, I don't believe in him.

Once again, the answer I'm getting for 'why does God allow innocent children to suffer?' is "it is what it is" with a dose of it's not God's faults it's humanity's fault.

Please explain how it's mankind's fault for a baby dying of leukemia (for example)?

Hypothetically, how could mankind prevent it from ever happening - if we had the chance?

Childhood leukaemia is a disease linked to DNA in the cells in bone marrow. Sometimes the cause is genetic, sometimes a fault in replication of the cells. Glad to say that through science 90% of children survive.