You not allowed to pick both , which one do you select for next 3 big games .
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You not allowed to pick both , which one do you select for next 3 big games .
My answer would be Ralls nine times out of ten, but I thought Pack played very well yesterday, so I'll go for him.Originally Posted by life on mars
Pack's a bit slow at times when in possession of the ball and was lucky to get fouled last night in the first half when dilly dallying, but he is always looking to attack and can thread a killer pass.
Ralls is what you might call "nice and tidy", breaks up play and tracks his man but when he has the ball, he too often takes the simple option backwards or sideways.
Not a great deal in it but at the moment it's Pack.
Ralls
Pack impress me yesterday but still think Ralls has that little bit more quality
In this current shape Pack, he’s more of a holding midfielder. I think the question should be Ralls or Vaulks. Ralls is the better footballer but Vaulks has more energy. I’m sure Ralls is morphing into Joe Ledley
They're all morphing into Joe Ledley.
All but 3 of the starting 11 yesterday had the beard, and the whole squad is learning the Joe Ledley 2016 dance via Zoom classes.
Just as long as they don't adopt his goal celebration!
I'm really not a fan of either.
Pack - Poor at so many things, good at passing and composure.
Ralls - Bang average at pretty much everything.
For me, pack as you can at least negate his flaws easier
Ralls? Who's he? I'd forgotten he was still here.
He tends to become oblivious in most games, particularly the bigger ones.....
Which leads to the obvious question. Given that neither of these players are deemed suitable for the job, within reason who would you like to see replace them next season if we are are still in this division ?
They're both bang average but I think Pack is slightly more comfortable in possession.
See, I think he's struggles. Watch closely over the next few matches and look how teams press him so that he panics and either boots it away randomly or passes backwards, thus breaking down the attack.
That said, he looks stronger than Ralls, whereas Ralls is better in possession.
I think Pack is a better footballer. I don't think Ralls is as bad as people are making out though I just think he needs the right players around him.
Ralls. I'm always baffled by the stick Ralls gets, if he was an average footballer he wouldn't have made almost 250 league appearances for a club that has been competing in the top half of the league for the whole time he's been here
Exactly, i don’t think Ralls is having the best of seasons and, as mentioned earlier, I would go with Pack at the moment, but I’m wondering if what I understood the term “bang average” to mean is right reading this thread. I’ve been very critical of our midfield this season, but have always thought individually they’re all pretty good by Championship standards, it’s just that the blend is wrong.
I agree its not his best season, but despite that WhoScored has him down as our 5th best player to play 20+ games this season: https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/188/Show/Wales-Cardiff
For all the talk of players coming through the ranks being favoured by fans and given more leeway, I think the opposite may be true. Ralls has been here for over a decade and was the closest thing we had to an academy product for a while but he gets a lot of unfair stick whilst inferior signings are praised ahead of the "bang average" midfielder who started 37 games for our promotion winning side.
Completely agree and he gets named dropped by other managers and our own on how good he is.
Thinking about the comment that the blend of midfield is wrong, it's good we have one who is likely to drum up interest if we're looking at selling to fund changes/free up squad space in this area of the pitch.
I’ve got to admit my football knowledge doesn’t stretch much further than Cardiff but one player I’d love here that doesn’t seem to be starting much is Phillip Billing at Bournemouth
Picking Pack for this means backing him to play on the 13th, the 16th, the 20th, the 24th and the 27th.
Picking Ralls means bringing in a player who dropped out of the squad due to injury and asking him to play on the 20th, the 24th and the 27th.
The boring answer is that we surely need to rotate. Playing the game though, I think Ralls and Vaulks are the better combination despite yesterday's showing which is actually the first 90 minutes I think Pack/Vaulks have played well together.
Sorry Bob but I do feel the need to bite.
He’s not particularly proficient at dribbling and controlling the ball but not the worst - average.
He’s OK at tackling and marking but can lunge in and get caught because of his pace - average
His shooting is pretty lacklustre, and about as powerful as a slug but tends to get it on target - average
He’s relatively slow, awful acceleration but not as slow as Pack or Flint - average
Ralls is a bang average player. What he has going for his positioning is pretty good, not a dreadful passer, he gives 100% every game and he rarely gets injured. He is dependable and that’s as good as it gets.
Would he get in any team in the top 6? Maybe. Maybe not.
Ralls easy.
Although Pack isn't as awful with the back 3 behind him.
Have you been watching the last few games when City have played with a back three and conceded very few goals? I have and it didn't look like an awful back three.
Don't think 2b2bdoo said the back 3 were awful....
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