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    I think it’s in no doubt that Sala was our player when the plane crashed

    What is in question is possible illegal 3rd party involvement, banned agents, unlicensed pilots etc

    Just highlights the murky world of international transfers

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    Re: And so it goes on ( Sala )

    Quote Originally Posted by Poolerblue View Post
    I think it’s in no doubt that Sala was our player when the plane crashed

    What is in question is possible illegal 3rd party involvement, banned agents, unlicensed pilots etc

    Just highlights the murky world of international transfers

    I still have doubts whether Sala's registration had been legally transferred from Nantes to Cardiff at the time of the crash.

    I don't think his eligibility to play in the Premier League or not is the issue (he could be a Cardiff player and still ineligible on various technicalities) but despite all the reports and threads on this I still don't know if the transfer was properly completed. The club's position that the contract documentation was invalid - and that it would have been revised and re-signed after Sala's return to Cardiff to deal with the contract anomalies - sounds plausible to me. That was not considered by FIFA and is the basis of the appeal to CIS.

    The role of the McKays (still at the time acting for Nantes) in arranging the flight is a separate reason for disputing the FIFA judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    I still have doubts whether Sala's registration had been legally transferred from Nantes to Cardiff at the time of the crash.

    I don't think his eligibility to play in the Premier League or not is the issue (he could be a Cardiff player and still ineligible on various technicalities) but despite all the reports and threads on this I still don't know if the transfer was properly completed. The club's position that the contract documentation was invalid - and that it would have been revised and re-signed after Sala's return to Cardiff to deal with the contract anomalies - sounds plausible to me. That was not considered by FIFA and is the basis of the appeal to CIS.

    The role of the McKays (still at the time acting for Nantes) in arranging the flight is a separate reason for disputing the FIFA judgement.

    I find myself agreeing with you !
    Under French law he remains their employee until they have paid him all monies owed.

    They claim that they somehow decided at 9.15 pm - shortly before his death - to issue a cheque in respect of this sum.

    However it seems implausible that someone was in personnel at Nantes FC signing cheques at that time of the evening , and it is impossible to explain why they would have made the cheque to his family rather than him at a time when he wasn't dead and no one had any reason to suspect that he might be.

    The suggestion , of course, is that they falsely backdated this cheque to make it appear that he was no longer an employee of Nantes FC, and had ceased to be shortly before his unexpected and unfortunate death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poolerblue View Post
    I think it’s in no doubt that Sala was our player when the plane crashed

    What is in question is possible illegal 3rd party involvement, banned agents, unlicensed pilots etc

    Just highlights the murky world of international transfers
    Sorry but what you say in the first sentence is just nonsense. If there was no doubt, do you really think that things would have gone on like this for so long. The advice City are receiving is obviously that there is considerable doubt whose player he was and also that there were other irregularities with the transfer.

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    Re: And so it goes on ( Sala )

    Quote Originally Posted by Poolerblue View Post
    I think it’s in no doubt that Sala was our player when the plane crashed

    What is in question is possible illegal 3rd party involvement, banned agents, unlicensed pilots etc

    Just highlights the murky world of international transfers
    So if he was legally ours don’t we get insurance to cover it? I would have thought that’s standard procedure

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    Cardiff City FC have conducted themselves properly since the tragic accident and the fact that Emiliano's family have had to suffer the long wait for justice is no fault of CCFC.

    If people have done wrong then the process of bringing them to justice should be allowed to take its course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    So if he was legally ours don’t we get insurance to cover it? I would have thought that’s standard procedure
    This WOL piece from almost 2 years ago covers most of the contentious issues (and there are loads of other pieces from the football insurance press and general media online). What it doesn't deal with is Emiliano Sala's personal insurance position (very relevant to his immediate family now) which I have seen discussed elsewhere. If he was a properly transferred and registered EPL player with Cardiff he was fully covered. If not the insurers would dispute liability. My understanding (maybe wrong) is that they are disputing liability and his family have not received anything from that source - but where the fault for that lies is at the heart of the CIS case.

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...tract-15941596

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    Re: And so it goes on ( Sala )

    Quote Originally Posted by Poolerblue View Post
    I think it’s in no doubt that Sala was our player when the plane crashed

    What is in question is possible illegal 3rd party involvement, banned agents, unlicensed pilots etc

    Just highlights the murky world of international transfers

    I think that's the whole point isn't it ?
    If this allegation is true then he was still a Nantes player when he died.

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