We don need no educashun....?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

you used to be able to leave school with very little in the way of qualifications and get a career that would still allow you to live well.
these days those jobs are much rarer. low paying jobs these days don't even pay enough to live on, companies rely on governments to top up their wages to something a person can survive on.
if is essentially a tax rebate for businesses that is masquerading as a handout to the poor.

Jobs that used to require applicants to merely have 'O' levels seem to require degrees these days.
By the time someone starts a job after uni these days many of us (although not me personally) had already bought a property courtesy of a mortgage on a reasonably priced house.

[RonnieBird]

Jobs that used to require applicants to merely have 'O' levels seem to require degrees these days.
By the time someone starts a job after uni these days many of us (although not me personally) had already bought a property courtesy of a mortgage on a reasonably priced house.

That's because modern degrees from a "University" which used to be a polytechnic or a 24 hour petrol garage aren't really worth an 'O' level. Our degrees used to be more highly regarded than American ones, but that's reversed now.
Blair wanted everyone to be able to get a degree, (???). Well now they can but the degree they get is meaningless.

[Tuerto]

That's because modern degrees from a "University" which used to be a polytechnic or a 24 hour petrol garage aren't really worth an 'O' level. Our degrees used to be more highly regarded than American ones, but that's reversed now.
Blair wanted everyone to be able to get a degree, (???). Well now they can but the degree they get is meaningless.

Meaningless is a bit strong. Not all education is about career prospects or monetary value, it's also about creating a more rounded individual, which does lead to benefits in employment, better life choices and a more rounded society.

[xsnaggle]

Meaningless is a bit strong. Not all education is about career prospects or monetary value, it's also about creating a more rounded individual, which does lead to benefits in employment, better life choices and a more rounded society.

I agree. For example a young (wo)man needs a degree to apply to be an officer in the Armed Forces, but it doesn't have to be in a subject close to the field he/she wants to work in. It is used as a measure of his/her ability to absorb and retain information and to problem recognise and problem solve.
The trainers do the rest. (Not purple adidas thought)

[Tuerto]

I agree. For example a young (wo)man needs a degree to apply to be an officer in the Armed Forces, but it doesn't have to be in a subject close to the field he/she wants to work in. It is used as a measure of his/her ability to absorb and retain information and to problem recognise and problem solve.
The trainers do the rest. (Not purple adidas thought)

Agreed, well said, apart from the purple trainers bit

[Taunton Blue Genie]

That's because modern degrees from a "University" which used to be a polytechnic or a 24 hour petrol garage aren't really worth an 'O' level. Our degrees used to be more highly regarded than American ones, but that's reversed now.
Blair wanted everyone to be able to get a degree, (???). Well now they can but the degree they get is meaningless.

It's a characteristic of a number of advanced countries that have increasingly sent higher numbers of students to university in recent decades.

[splott parker]

It's a characteristic of a number of advanced countries that have increasingly sent higher numbers of students to university in recent decades.

I think the western world will eventually be overrun with sports scientists.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

I think the western world will eventually be overrun with sports scientists.

At least they should be fit enough to overrun.

[RonnieBird]

It's a characteristic of a number of advanced countries that have increasingly sent higher numbers of students to university in recent decades.

Do you think we're an advanced country now then ?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Do you think we're an advanced country now then ?

The IMF does.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

The IMF does.

I have visited 65 countries myself but one doesn't want to be too subjective by basing one's opinions merely on one's own selective sample, of course.

Yours

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