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  1. #1

    Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    They talk about Mick McCarthy being a step down from Brendan Rodgers, but, surely, he’d be a step up from Neil Lennon?
    I fear they are destined to be disappointed with the caliber of manager they're expecting to go there.
    They say that Rodgers went there after almost winning the premier league - and there was probably a time in the not too distant past that they could compete with clubs at the top level of the English pyramid.
    In reality Rodgers was sacked with Liverpool in 10th, having finished 6th the previous season and performed poorly in Europe. He was out of work for half a year and certainly not linked with any big jobs in the premier league at that time. His reputation was very much improved by the time he finished his exploits at Celtic.

    I've also seen some Celtic fans thinking they are going to poach the manager of Red Bull Saltzburg - I really can't see it personally, but stranger things have happened.

  2. #2

    Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I fear they are destined to be disappointed with the caliber of manager they're expecting to go there.
    They say that Rodgers went there after almost winning the premier league - and there was probably a time in the not too distant past that they could compete with clubs at the top level of the English pyramid.
    In reality Rodgers was sacked with Liverpool in 10th, having finished 6th the previous season and performed poorly in Europe. He was out of work for half a year and certainly not linked with any big jobs in the premier league at that time. His reputation was very much improved by the time he finished his exploits at Celtic.

    I've also seen some Celtic fans thinking they are going to poach the manager of Red Bull Saltzburg - I really can't see it personally, but stranger things have happened.
    I think it’s fair to say that Celtic have huge delusions of grandeur.
    Reasonably big club playing in a pub league.
    An embarrassment in Europe every year losing out to other “mickey mouse” clubs from third world countries
    The money, opportunities to win local silverware and play in Europe will ensure they get a decent manager, but any achievements on his CV will be tempered by the lack of any opposition in the league.

  3. #3

    Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

    Quote Originally Posted by DubaiDai View Post
    I think it’s fair to say that Celtic have huge delusions of grandeur.
    Reasonably big club playing in a pub league.
    An embarrassment in Europe every year losing out to other “mickey mouse” clubs from third world countries
    The money, opportunities to win local silverware and play in Europe will ensure they get a decent manager, but any achievements on his CV will be tempered by the lack of any opposition in the league.
    Reasonably big is underselling them a bit, Wolves are a reasonably big club, Celtic are easily one of the biggest clubs in Britain

  4. #4

    Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I fear they are destined to be disappointed with the caliber of manager they're expecting to go there.
    They say that Rodgers went there after almost winning the premier league - and there was probably a time in the not too distant past that they could compete with clubs at the top level of the English pyramid.
    In reality Rodgers was sacked with Liverpool in 10th, having finished 6th the previous season and performed poorly in Europe. He was out of work for half a year and certainly not linked with any big jobs in the premier league at that time. His reputation was very much improved by the time he finished his exploits at Celtic.

    I've also seen some Celtic fans thinking they are going to poach the manager of Red Bull Saltzburg - I really can't see it personally, but stranger things have happened.
    Its not beyond the realms of possibility, Celtic are a massive club. Its a chance to pick up some silverware, enhance your reputation and get paid well

  5. #5

    Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Reasonably big is underselling them a bit, Wolves are a reasonably big club, Celtic are easily one of the biggest clubs in Britain
    don't underestimate the decline of Scottish football over the last couple of decades though, money has left the game.
    most championship clubs get way more revenue than almost all of the spl.

    the job is a bit of a poisoned chalice as well I'd say. whoever goes in basically has to win multiple trophies not to be considered a failure.

    I can't see someone walking out in Rb saltzburg who dominate the Austrian league, and have had some good European campaigns recently, and where there's a good chance that you could get shifted up.to r b Leipzig when someone comes in for nagelsmann.

  6. #6

    Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    don't underestimate the decline of Scottish football over the last couple of decades though, money has left the game.
    most championship clubs get way more revenue than almost all of the spl.

    the job is a bit of a poisoned chalice as well I'd say. whoever goes in basically has to win multiple trophies not to be considered a failure.

    I can't see someone walking out in Rb saltzburg who dominate the Austrian league, and have had some good European campaigns recently, and where there's a good chance that you could get shifted up.to r b Leipzig when someone comes in for nagelsmann.
    I'm not saying he'll definitely go, but Celtic are on another level to most clubs. In spite of the poor standards of Scottish football they averaged 57,000 fans

    Having to win trophies and dominating a poor European league would hardly be a huge change in circumstance for someone who managed Salzburg, but Celtic certainly have a higher ceiling. Getting them into Europe with the European money flowing in limits the importance of domestic TV revenues

  7. #7

    Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
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    I can't see someone walking out in Rb saltzburg who dominate the Austrian league, and have had some good European campaigns recently, and where there's a good chance that you could get shifted up.to r b Leipzig when someone comes in for nagelsmann.
    well this exact thing happened

  8. #8

    Re: McCarthy to Celtic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    well this exact thing happened
    quote-replying to your own comment from months back.....cool bro.

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