God, I hope not. September ?Originally Posted by blue matt
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God, I hope not. September ?
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Groundwork for the ‘third wave’
"Still fuming at all the brilliant people who got made redundant in October because Rishi Sunak refused to extend furlough until there were just hours to go before the deadline, by which time decisions had already been made. They could have kept their jobs for another year" - https://twitter.com/RMCunliffe/statu...84836058525705
Do you think that's a fair comment? The challenges of winter surely could have been more expected?
yes of course that was a mistake, a massive mistake
but as we were learning different things, Most still had hopes ( in Oct ) that we had seen the back of Covid and lockdowns, it was all pretty fluid , ideally it should have been in place that furlough was on a rolling date, i guess they have learnt that and thus we see it still available for Sept
Back to the extended Furlough / SE help and the Universal increase, they are really trying to look after them who need it
Not SAGE who had recommended circuit breaker by the 21st of September. Around the same time that Sunak was introducing herd immunity scientists into the conversation though?
There have been workers left out of support all together: newly self employed (200K), new starters (300K), PAYE freelancers (390K), those who are part-time employed and part-time self-employed (1.175million) and many more not helped throughout the pandemic.
As ever with budgets there will be some good (increasing corporation tax but keeping it lowest in G7 is an example of improvement, keeping Ł20 uplift) and some bad, but my bias says you're being very lenient on someone who seems to be better at delivering a message than getting the message right.
Boris was forced into a few socialist lite fiscal policies. I bet that it's boiling his piss.
thats exactly what happened to my lad . would still be in the same job now all for the sake of a few hours
Corbyn was a radical communist for wanting to raise corporation tax to 26%. Sunak is a hero and saviour for raising CT to 25%.
The two things were not considered together in the mind of the general public, but as separate issues. Whether the first is true or not is a personal judgment for most.
Freezing personal allowances (which the highest earners don't get) or tax thresholds (which are insignificant to the highest earners) increases the blended rates of income tax paid by lower earners but not (or less than) that paid by the highest earners.
A week ago people were creaming for him to extend furlough and the Ł20 a week uplift. He has done that. Now they say he hasn't done it for long enough. There is no way he is ever going to win that battle. Whatever they are given people always want more.
I'm one of thsoe who fell down the middle regarding employed/self employed help. And I couldn't get any other help either.
As for the advice given/taken. I always take advice from doctors and scientists with a pinch of salt. They will always tell you the worst possible outcome as the likeliest one (Although this time they may have been right) and they are very loathe to agree with any good news, always wanting to temper it with a dose of foreboding doom and gloom. It's just in their nature.
It like your doctor always tells you 'You mustn't drink' when you are taking this or that medicine. It doesn't really make any difference but they instinctively want to stop people drinking. (Even though half of them drink too much themselves)
Who do you take medial advice from and who do you refer to regarding science?
Why do you ask such stupid questions when it is quite obvious to a reasonable person that I was referring to advice given by these 'experts' in general. Clearly the average man doesn't refer to scientists on a regular basis.
I was referring to the doctors and scientists that the BBC and other media outlets wheel out whenever something good or bad happens. As I said, they are always ready to pour doom and gloom on any good news and make any bad news look as bad as they can. When some doctor in a provincial hospital or a scientist that 'was on the SAGE committee but isn't any more' and such like are trollied out I always wonder how many people the media outlet in question spoke to before they found one who was prepared to voice the opinion they wanted to air.
Which scientists do you refer to?
It was a fair question I thought. If you dismiss advice given by scientists and doctors who do you rely on for accurate information?
It wasn't a fair question, but I don't rely on any one in particular. As I said, I take everything with a pinch of salt. Life has taught me that when you hear 2 sides of anything the truth is normally somewhere in the middle. And of course despite their calling, doctors and scientists views on a subject or policy can be coloured by their own view of things in general. Like anyone else they tell you what they want you to believe.
Stupid question
I was just referring to a full sentence you wrote. Thanks for speaking up on behalf of reasonable persons and for calling my questions stupid though.
you and I both know you were implying that I speak directly to scientists about things whereas you actually knew quite well what I meant in my post. That is why it was a stupid question.
Time to scrap that hs2 train line save a few 100 billion....
Spot on. They can scrap it now "with honour" by citing the cost of the pandemic - the perfect get out clause.
Labour take but, if accurate, isn't ten years of slashing away at services, cuts to real health budgets part of why we struggled so much with the pandemic in the first place?“Buried in this is a return to smaller public services, cutting public sector budgets, cutting hospital budgets, freezing pay.”
I think the statistics show that whilst the UK has suffered more than most with the pandemic, there have been staggering differences between countries due to other factors. The UK has seen 1817 deaths per million. India 113. That's just 7% compared with the UK. India's a poorer country per capita, much more densely populated, and large families living under one roof. However India has one of the lowest BMI's at 21. The UK's is over 27.
well yes but I think this time around will be a bit different after all the majority of us were asked by the current government to stand on our doorsteps clapping our key workers last summer and the masses duly obliged . Lets hope our opposition parties makes this a big factor when we are asked to put our X in the box 12 months before the next general election
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