Barnsley.

[the other bob wilson]

Another data driven club, are Ng and Watters and the high press we're using under Mick McCarthy a sign that we're going in the same direction?

https://www.theguardian.com/football...nship-by-storm

[sneggyblubird]

Plans like these only take you so far.Suppose for arguments sake Barnsley and the City were promoted,who would be in the best position to stay there.I use these two clubs as they employ similar tactics on the park(high press and run the legs off the opponents).Barnsley who haven't got a pot to piss in and somehow continuing to unearth players from league two but this time expecting them to step up to the prem or city who could afford to bring in players already plying their trade at a higher level.The way both clubs play will work in the prem but unless both clubs get better players both would come straight back down.

[surge]

Think having only one paragraph about how they have benefited from being able to make three subs early doors with two left to make is clever media management - they were 24th before covid break in 2019-2020 season and 16th (11 games in) before this rule returned on 20/11/2020 this year. Their model might be based on finding players to play with high intensity for 90 minutes but haven't had success using it in this league (yet).

[surge]

Another data driven club, are Ng and Watters and the high press we're using under Mick McCarthy a sign that we're going in the same direction?

https://www.theguardian.com/football...nship-by-storm

To answer original question, Watters and NG were getting good reviews from pundits familiar with data before they came here. Difficult to say if the club are taking data more seriously, they haven't shouted it as others have, but there has been some crossover if it's just a coincidence.

[tforturton]

Barnsley who haven't got a pot to piss in and somehow continuing to unearth players from league two

Haven't got a pot to piss in? Seriously? Barnsley are owned by a mega-rich Chinese man who makes Vincent Tan look second-rate. He owns at least five other clubs, and his ambition to get Barnsley into the Premier is well known. Read up about Chien Lee on Wikipedia, and prepare to be surprised.
They also unearth lower league talent by adopting data-search, rather than talent-spotting. Clearly it works for them.

[Rjk]

Another data driven club, are Ng and Watters and the high press we're using under Mick McCarthy a sign that we're going in the same direction?

https://www.theguardian.com/football...nship-by-storm

if Ng and watters are evidence of that approach (which I would heartily welcome) then what about the first two players that McCarthy tried to bring in being Cameron Jerome and Jordan Rhodes? Barnsley wouldn't touch either of those with a bargepole.

was reading an article on an American striker they have on loan who I'd never heard of, but apparently he's being linked to big clubs already

[dml1954]

Haven't got a pot to piss in? Seriously? Barnsley are owned by a mega-rich Chinese man who makes Vincent Tan look second-rate. He owns at least five other clubs, and his ambition to get Barnsley into the Premier is well known. Read up about Chien Lee on Wikipedia, and prepare to be surprised.
They also unearth lower league talent by adopting data-search, rather than talent-spotting. Clearly it works for them.

One of my wife's relatives is a season ticket holder at Barnsley. Take it from him that they really haven't had for years or got now a ‘pot to piss in’. Chien Lee is only one of a consortium of people (including the aptly named Billy Beane) who own the club and has done since 2017. Prior to then they had been run into the ground by their previous owners and were up to their eyeballs in debt and actually on the verge of going bankrupt. Chien Lee is probably the ‘figurehead’. Their fanbase is around the 9000-10000 region of ‘die hards’ at most, although they can draw in a few thousand more from surrounding areas like Sheffield or Leeds, when in the Premier League or doing well in the Championship. They have a nice but fairly small old ground which is lacking maintenance, with one side that is dilapidated and hardly used that they have never been able to afford to renovate or rebuild (mainly due to its proximity to residential terraces of houses, where everyone has continually objected and these would have to be compulsorily purchased if they ever did it). When the consortium came in they promised a very large injection of funds into the stadium and team but other than paying debts off, so far this has not materialised. They are no doubt much better run now and get most of their (young) players from lower leagues but certainly, due to the deprivation and high unemployment in the old mining area of Barnsley, are restricted by the lack of money and small fanbase. Their fans mostly think that they are punching above their weight currently. It will be very difficult for them to sustain what they are doing now in the area they are located.

[sneggyblubird]

Haven't got a pot to piss in? Seriously? Barnsley are owned by a mega-rich Chinese man who makes Vincent Tan look second-rate. He owns at least five other clubs, and his ambition to get Barnsley into the Premier is well known. Read up about Chien Lee on Wikipedia, and prepare to be surprised.
They also unearth lower league talent by adopting data-search, rather than talent-spotting. Clearly it works for them.

Did you read the whole article,doesn't appear they wanna spend anything.