Welsh Elections 2021 poll

[Wozza16]

With the recent polls predicting the narrowest 3 way race in May, who would you be voting for if it was election day today?

1 day poll!

[Vindec]

I'm amazed by the results so far of that poll given the abuse anyone who has voted Tory has got on here.

[life on mars]

I'm amazed by the results so far of that poll given the abuse anyone who has voted Tory has got on here.

Speaks volumes perhaps folk would feel bullied for having a different view and don't want to run the risk of abuse as they want to remain part of this message board.

When people type their vile responses they should consider who they are effecting, some may suffer from depression or anxiety and dont deserve the abuse for having a view .

[Hilts]

Speaks volumes perhaps folk would feel bullied for having a different view and don't want to run the risk of abuse as they want to remain part of this message board.

When people type their vile responses they should consider who they are effecting, some may suffer from depression or anxiety and dont deserve the abuse for having a view .

Ive seen posters on here describing certain posters as lefties. Dont think they feel bullied though.

Saying that I dont look at the politics thread.

[Hilts]

Cant see the poll on the mobile site. I very much doubt ill vote. If it looks narrow between any of the main parties and Tory id make the effort to vote for the party most likely to stop the Tory.

However I would not vote reform or UKIP under any circumstances.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Labour , to keep out the tories

But its hardly inspiring

[Der Kaiser]

Labour , to keep out the tories

But its hardly inspiring

Exactly why Wales will be in the same place in twenty years as it is now.

[cardiff55]

Can you imagine Andrew RT Davies in charge? Why doesn't he call himself Andrew Davies?

[bobh]

Can you imagine Andrew RT Davies in charge? Why doesn't he call himself Andrew Davies?

Perhaps he just wants to appear to be "arty"

[Shrewsbury Blue]

I don't live in Wales so have no vote but who on earth are propel ?

[surge]

I don't live in Wales so have no vote but who on earth are propel ?

As far as I can tell, Neil McEvoy fell out with Plaid so made his own party.

[WJ99mobile]

I'd like to vote Labour but I can't after some of the rubbish Drakeford has done and also endorsing anti-Brexit Starmer somewhat and I can't vote for Plaid as they're nationalistic idiots

So it's a choice between Tories or not voting.

[City123]

I'd like to vote Labour but I can't after some of the rubbish Drakeford has done and also endorsing anti-Brexit Starmer somewhat and I can't vote for Plaid as they're nationalistic idiots

So it's a choice between Tories or not voting.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48980318

They've also spent over £2m on kitting out a room with union flags, continually bang on about the "greatness" of Britain and Britishness and are about to spunk even more millions on painting a plane with the union flag.

[surge]

I'd like to vote Labour but I can't after some of the rubbish Drakeford has done and also endorsing anti-Brexit Starmer somewhat and I can't vote for Plaid as they're nationalistic idiots

So it's a choice between Tories or not voting.

Tories are also nationalists: "BBC chief told to use 'more than one union jack' in annual report
Tory MP asks Tim Davie how many union flags were pictured in the corporation’s financial document"
(https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-annual-report)

In fact, if you're against nationalism then I think Labour, Greens or Lib Dems are your best bet.

Wales loses seats in the next round of Westminster elections so say in events is going to decrease. For me that makes the Senedd elections even more important and even more important to get engaged with Welsh politics before making a decision. Podcast on Welsh politics can be found here: https://soundcloud.com/hiraethpod

[WJ99mobile]

Tories are also nationalists: "BBC chief told to use 'more than one union jack' in annual report
Tory MP asks Tim Davie how many union flags were pictured in the corporation’s financial document"
(https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-annual-report)

In fact, if you're against nationalism then I think Labour, Greens or Lib Dems are your best bet.

Wales loses seats in the next round of Westminster elections so say in events is going to decrease. For me that makes the Senedd elections even more important and even more important to get engaged with Welsh politics before making a decision. Podcast on Welsh politics can be found here: https://soundcloud.com/hiraethpod

If I can clarify - I'm against an independent wales

I listen to Hiraeth quite often after going off Desolution Radio (who have suggested some absolutely outrageous crap lately)

[surge]

If I can clarify - I'm against an independent wales

I listen to Hiraeth quite often after going off Desolution Radio (who have suggested some absolutely outrageous crap lately)

In which case I can say no more to you.

For the rest of you, please get engaged and make informed decisions.

[the other bob wilson]

I'd like to vote Labour but I can't after some of the rubbish Drakeford has done and also endorsing anti-Brexit Starmer somewhat and I can't vote for Plaid as they're nationalistic idiots

So it's a choice between Tories or not voting.

Why would you like to vote Labour? You do know there are other parties besides Conservatives, Labour and Plaid do you?

[WJ99mobile]

Why would you like to vote Labour? You do know there are other parties besides Conservatives, Labour and Plaid do you?

I know the hypocrisy/stupidity but it really is a wasted vote

If voting was mandatory and turnout was 75%+ then it would be a different story but it's not and a vote for propel is a waste of time when you just know they're not going to be around come the following elections

[Rjk]

I'd like to vote Labour but I can't after some of the rubbish Drakeford has done and also endorsing anti-Brexit Starmer somewhat and I can't vote for Plaid as they're nationalistic idiots

So it's a choice between Tories or not voting.

what is the rubbish that Drakeford has done?

which Tories in Wales have impressed you?

[WJ99mobile]

what is the rubbish that Drakeford has done?

which Tories in Wales have impressed you?

I'm not going to give my entire political viewpoint over the internet but there are both things that a local and national level that alter my view

Tories at a national level have heavily supported the sector I work in as well as a pro-Brexit agenda which a lot of Wales voted for.

Welsh Labour are doing some things that I agree with such as taking in to public ownership the trains and Cardiff airport and then shoot themselves in the foot with the M4 relief road and various other infrastructure projects that have failed due to environmental concerns (which I'll admit is really not a concern of mine)

My bigger gripe is more to do with Labour at a national level.

I'll admit - I probably do want a 'Tory Party-Lite' without all the rubbish the Tory party comes with

[Rjk]

I'm not going to give my entire political viewpoint over the internet but there are both things that a local and national level that alter my view

Tories at a national level have heavily supported the sector I work in as well as a pro-Brexit agenda which a lot of Wales voted for.

Welsh Labour are doing some things that I agree with such as taking in to public ownership the trains and Cardiff airport and then shoot themselves in the foot with the M4 relief road and various other infrastructure projects that have failed due to environmental concerns (which I'll admit is really not a concern of mine)

My bigger gripe is more to do with Labour at a national level.

I'll admit - I probably do want a 'Tory Party-Lite' without all the rubbish the Tory party comes with

I honestly don't believe that the Welsh Tories would have pushed the M4 relief road through either. the project made no sense financially. unless the firm's that were doing it were large Tory donors I can't see them having the appetite for it.

[surge]

I honestly don't believe that the Welsh Tories would have pushed the M4 relief road through either. the project made no sense financially. unless the firm's that were doing it were large Tory donors I can't see them having the appetite for it.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Tories do well (labour fatigue, Tory MP's in North Wales from last Westminster elections but actually vote increase larger in the south) but, imo, I can't see what they have done to deserve it.

Regarding M4 relief road, if it does get made you almost instantly have to thing about a second relief road and that's only going to cause greater damage to the environment. Meanwhile, floods in Wales get worse.

Regarding Covid, ignoring the fire-breal idea, delay of lockdown in England, schools going back for one day all contributed to more sustained level of grief under a Tory government this winter.

In the big event of the year (covid) and big event of the next 10-15 years (climate change) Tories haven't stood up well. All while making cuts to any project in Wales at Westminster level or ignoring Wales completely.

[stevebrickman]

what is the rubbish that Drakeford has done?

which Tories in Wales have impressed you?

Joel Williams. Currently councillor for Pontprennau and St Mellons. He’s young, but impressive. He’s running for Cardiff North in the assembly elections I believe. Think he will go far.

[life on mars]

Joel Williams. Currently councillor for Pontprennau and St Mellons. He’s young, but impressive. He’s running for Cardiff North in the assembly elections I believe. Think he will go far.

I've met him , he is so young , very switched on, not your usual Tory

[life on mars]

I'd like to vote Labour but I can't after some of the rubbish Drakeford has done and also endorsing anti-Brexit Starmer somewhat and I can't vote for Plaid as they're nationalistic idiots

So it's a choice between Tories or not voting.

A dilemma indeed and a poser for a lot I guess , I personally don't support nationalism,don't like Drakeford type politics .