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Thread: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

  1. #21

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    I despair sometimes at some peoples attitude to players. Vaulks has been consistently good this season, man of the match on a couple of occasions and a big part of our jump up the table under MM. Saying you don't rate him because he picks up yellow cards doesn't make sense. That has nothing to do with his ability. He is a combative midfielder which is something many teams want and picks up yellows as a result but has only been sent off once in his senior career. Cristiano Ronaldo has been sent off 11 times and booked over 120 times in his career but no one would say he was over rated.
    Think you've missed the nuance in jumping to defend one of our best players this year. Maybe if I can follow your lead in using extreme examples: Roberto Carlos wouldn't immediately get into a Sam Allardcye team based on what Allardyce wants from a full-back but Roberto Carlos is obviously a fantastic player.

  2. #22

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    Think you've missed the nuance in jumping to defend one of our best players this year. Maybe if I can follow your lead in using extreme examples: Roberto Carlos wouldn't immediately get into a Sam Allardcye team based on what Allardyce wants from a full-back but Roberto Carlos is obviously a fantastic player.
    I think you might find that Roberto Carlos is probably a bit too old, even at 47, for a Sam Allardyce team.....

  3. #23

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    Think you've missed the nuance in jumping to defend one of our best players this year. Maybe if I can follow your lead in using extreme examples: Roberto Carlos wouldn't immediately get into a Sam Allardcye team based on what Allardyce wants from a full-back but Roberto Carlos is obviously a fantastic player.
    Off topic but I remember being stunned by his free kick at le tournoi as a 8/9 year old, one of those goals that just stays with you.

    Every other time I saw him take one, expecting magic I think he hit the stands.

  4. #24

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    While I think the 7m is ludicrous hes very unlucky not to be in the squad when you see some of those selected.

  5. #25

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I think you might find that Roberto Carlos is probably a bit too old, even at 47, for a Sam Allardyce team.....
    Warnock would give him 3 years with an option to extend.

  6. #26

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Warnock would give him 3 years with an option to extend.
    Young Player of the Year candidate?

  7. #27

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    Vaulks has played well for us recently, but I would be surprised if Norwich see him as a Premier League player. The Sheffield United link makes more sense, although I'm wondering if this story is his agent trying to get him a better contract from us.

  8. #28

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    Quote Originally Posted by Sloop_Jon_Bee View Post
    Have to disagree Paul. He is not good enough for the Wales midfield. If he was playing last night he would have picked up at least a yellow and would have offered no composure on the ball. I do not rate him at all.
    Spedger
    That's a fair comment but the alternatives are Levitt, who couldn't get in the Charlton team and has been very, very poor when he's played; and Matt Smith who is playing in League One or Sheehan in League Two. If we are hanging on, and assume Morrell and Ampadu will start vs the Czechs on Tuesday, I'd much rather Vaulks coming on if Ampadu got a knock than playing a Luton reserve and a League One player who are both extremely inexperienced.

    Vaulks is far from perfect but his absence from the squad is curious to say the least.

  9. #29

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Warnock would give him 3 years with an option to extend.

  10. #30

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    Leaving aside the Mail’s extraordinary claim that the player is suddenly worth £7 million, the question that occurred to me while reading that report was why on earth would a Premier League-bound, possession-based, passing side like Norwich want Will Vaulks?

    The answer has eluded me.

  11. #31

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Leaving aside the Mail’s extraordinary claim that the player is suddenly worth £7 million, the question that occurred to me while reading that report was why on earth would a Premier League-bound, possession-based, passing side like Norwich want Will Vaulks?

    The answer has eluded me.
    Clearly his career passing accuracy average of 66.5% is the answer you are looking for here....

  12. #32

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Clearly his career passing accuracy average of 66.5% is the answer you are looking for here....
    66%. Fair play. I’d have had him closer to the 30% mark from what I’ve seen of him.

  13. #33

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    66%. Fair play. I’d have had him closer to the 30% mark from what I’ve seen of him.


    Yes, I was a bit surprised by the figure as well. Question the statisicians...

    Edit: Actually he's ok at finding the net from 30+ yards and from bizarre situations, yet struggles with passes of a few yards...

  14. #34

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Yes, I was a bit surprised by the figure as well. Question the statisticians...
    If somebody asked me to describe Will Vaulks, I’d say something along the lines of: “Combative, energetic, niggly and deliberately dirty at times, a great striker of the ball when he catches it right, scores some spectacular goals but can’t pass for shit.”

    Or maybe: “Not the type of player Norwich would be even remotely interested in.”

  15. #35

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    I like him , I hope we keep him

  16. #36

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    That's a fair comment but the alternatives are Levitt, who couldn't get in the Charlton team and has been very, very poor when he's played; and Matt Smith who is playing in League One or Sheehan in League Two. If we are hanging on, and assume Morrell and Ampadu will start vs the Czechs on Tuesday, I'd much rather Vaulks coming on if Ampadu got a knock than playing a Luton reserve and a League One player who are both extremely inexperienced.

    Vaulks is far from perfect but his absence from the squad is curious to say the least.
    The way I'm looking at it is that in four years time we're going to be starting our next world cup qualifying group(?) having waved goodbye to many of our favourites and really needing some of our younger players now to step up. Smith and Lewitt both have high ceilings of talent and fit the system we're looking to keep throughout the age groups, and the theory seems to be that giving them time, experience at international level is the way to develop them. Morrell probably has a lower ceiling of talent but fits into the system really well which would also explain Sheehan.

    This has to be balanced against players playing well at a high level to look after our current position which is why many feel Vaulks deserves more of a chance, and there are going to be games where he's the perfect fit. Think many of us are disappointed in the way the news was broken to him as well.

    Ultimately, they're all proud as punch to play for Wales and all deserve support.

  17. #37

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I like him , I hope we keep him
    You would have kept Boland over Koumas....

  18. #38

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    You would have kept Boland over Koumas....
    I am just as God made me

  19. #39

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    If somebody asked me to describe Will Vaulks, I’d say something along the lines of: “Combative, energetic, niggly and deliberately dirty at times, a great striker of the ball when he catches it right, scores some spectacular goals but can’t pass for shit.”

    Or maybe: “Not the type of player Norwich would be even remotely interested in.”
    But then you are no more than a football fan so nobody within the game would give a flying ****

  20. #40

    Re: Norwich want Will Vaulks for £7m - allegedly

    I can't see how he'd fit into a Premier League club with any ambition. He's has a few qualities, but he doesn't really excel at anything. Every time I watch him play, I see mostly his limitations. He could probably be the best player in a League One team.

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