Vincent Tan to give half his wealth to charity after he dies...

[dml1954]

That's because, much like WT, you're an idiot with a really poor memory. As it happens, my first home match post-rebrand was against the mighty Burton Albion in January 2017. Rhys Healey scored the winner for City in injury time. A Premier League thriller it wasn't. Dreadful game.

But never mind talking about the numerous football matches I've attended during the last five years. You seem to have a deep and somewhat strange affection for the 69 year-old Malaysian businessman who currently owns and controls Cardiff City Football Club, so let's talk instead about the decade under his ownership. In which particular ways would you consider that the club is further forward now than it was when he took control? What aspects of the club's current operations lead you to hold Vincent Tan in such high esteem?

The fact that you are asking how is the club further forward now than it was when Tan took control says it all for me. If you actually think that the club is worse off now than it was pre 2010 then you are deluded. You appear to have a total inability to acknowledge or accept any of the good things that Tan has done and the unprecedented success we have achieved on and off the pitch since he took over. Perhaps you will only be happy when the club is wallowing in the lower leagues again and on the br8nk of bankruptcy, as it mostly was between 1985 and 2003.

[The Lone Gunman]

The fact that you are asking how is the club further forward now than it was when Tan took control says it all for me. If you actually think that the club is worse off now than it was pre 2010 then you are deluded. You appear to have a total inability to acknowledge or accept any of the good things that Tan has done and the unprecedented success we have achieved on and off the pitch since he took over.

I didn't say the club is currently worse off than it was when Tan took control. However, I have asked for examples of progress. Do you have any you can share?

[dml1954]

I didn't say the club is currently worse off than it was when Tan took control. However, I have asked for examples of progress. Do you have any you can share?

Have a read of this article from mid 2020. It might give you some pointers to help understand.

https://www.nst.com.my/sports/footba...rs-vincent-tan

[The Lone Gunman]

Have a read of this article from mid 2020. It might give you some pointers to help understand.

I got as far as: "The following year, Cardiff City had become debt-free for the first time since Tan invested £6 million for an initial stake in the club."

It's horseshit.

[dml1954]

I got as far as: "The following year, Cardiff City had become debt-free for the first time since Tan invested £6 million for an initial stake in the club."

It's horseshit.

Well, you would say that because it doesn't fit in with your views. There is a list of a number of things he has done since he took over in the article, all of which are true and all of which put the club in a better position than we were before he took over. Thats what you asked for. You don't like the answer.

[The Lone Gunman]

Well, you would say that because it doesn't fit in with your views. There is a list of a number of things he has done since he took over in the article, all of which are true and all of which put the club in a better position than we were before he took over. Thats what you asked for. You don't like the answer.

I said it was horseshit because it's horseshit. The club has never been debt-free under Tan - far from it.

You say there is a list of things he has done that have put the club in better position than it was in before he took over. Name them.