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Thread: VAR official and referee WTF

  1. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Any decision that goes against Manchester United is ok by me
    Yeah, I certainly wasn't disappointed with it, but even I think Man United were hard done by.

  2. #22

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    OGS doing quite well now after a shaky start.

  3. #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Goal line technology has been brilliant. Thatís definitely been a step forward. I think Iím right in saying there has been just one glitch (during Villa v Sheff Utd last season), but apart from that itís been faultless. You canít disagree with it.

    VAR, on the other hand, has been consistently abysmal and itís making the referees look even more clueless than they were to begin with.
    Was there ever an official explanation about that glitch?

  4. #24

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    Kicks in the head in the penalty area don't seem to be deemed a foul somehow. I've seen a few this season.

  5. #25

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    Could it be a problem if it’s used for a few seasons and then binned? Refs and linesmen could become ‘lazy’ knowing VAR would bail them out, the standard of officials could suffer badly if its kept for a while and then dumped.

  6. #26

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    The only reason VAR seems to be used now is to find any tiny reason not to give a goal, itís genuinely making the game worse.

    Itís not even like football has that many clear and obvious errors anyway.

  7. #27

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    The whole thing seems so pointless. The vast majority of the decisions are being reached merely on opinions and the offside rulings are farcical. Itís not making the game better in any respect, so why persist with it?

    In most cases, VAR basically boils down to referees in studios either overruling the referees on the pitches or heavily influencing them based on nothing but their own opinions. Itís ridiculous. We were far better off when the opinions of the officials at the game were the only ones that mattered.
    Var has led to better decisions being made and improved the flow of games.

  8. #28

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    QUOTE=Eric the Half a Bee;5184260]Var has improved the flow of games.[/QUOTE]

    Really? Take today, the game was held up for quite a while, Man Utd celebrated, the question was raised about the ‘flick off’, VAR was looked at, then the ref went over to the pitchside monitor. Hardly improved the flow of the game.

  9. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    What happened to the "clear and obvious" bit? Someone had a goal disallowed yesterday for a hand or an elbow and even with the lines it looked level. Who decides whether it's clear and obvious? One person? More? Can the ref overrule the VAR decision?
    I believe the referee's decision is still final.

    As you say, it has to be clear and obvious for the decision to be overturned.
    That's why I think the VAR person is gutless to not to have made the decision himself and bending the rule by putting it back in the referee's court so that he himself has change his original decision.
    The referee was weak today and should have stuck by his original decision. He got it wrong IMHO.

    Anybody who has played the game at any level, or even watched the game "live" or without the benefit of TV and slow motion, would have said that the goal should have stood for the simple reason that Son was trying to cheat and got caught by the man he was trying to foul. Serves him right!

    Unfortunately at the top level these days, common sense gets overruled by idiots using modern technology.

  10. #30

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Var has led to better decisions being made and improved the flow of games.
    Well the goal that was disallowed today certainly wasn't one of them.

    VAR has the potential to be a good thing but the way it is being used is where I see the problem.

    Between the referee and the faceless VAR man, they took forever to reach the wrong decision

  11. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Really?
    No. I was taking the piss.

  12. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    No. I was taking the piss.
    Eric, your subtlety has no beginning

  13. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Eric, your subtlety has no beginning
    Too right!

  14. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    QUOTE=Eric the Half a Bee;5184260]Var has improved the flow of games.
    Really? Take today, the game was held up for quite a while, Man Utd celebrated, the question was raised about the ‘flick off’, VAR was looked at, then the ref went over to the pitchside monitor. Hardly improved the flow of the game.[/QUOTE]

    52

  15. #35

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    VAR being absolutely useless hasn't been a shock but just how rubbish it is, is shocking. God it is rubbish. I can't watch PL games now, I immediately put the county cricket back on after that incident. Great run chase at Bristol.

  16. #36

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    OGS doing quite well now after a shaky start.
    yeah, although I think they're lucky to be in 2nd this time around, their performances don't really warrant that. if Chelsea hadn't stuck with Lampard for so long I suspect they'd be up there.
    the number of games man u have won from a losing position is very impressive, but probably not something you want to rely on long term, I doubt it is that repeatable.
    they're definitely improved since the previous manager though

  17. #37

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    What is their xG these days? I remember there was a point on his first good run where it looked like they were winning games they shouldnít and then it did all go to shit.

    Also Spurs arenít adventurous enough under Jose and it really played into Man Unitedís hands.

  18. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    What is their xG these days? I remember there was a point on his first good run where it looked like they were winning games they shouldn’t and then it did all go to shit.

    Also Spurs aren’t adventurous enough under Jose and it really played into Man United’s hands.
    Jose has totally ****ed up spurs in the space of a couple of seasons.
    with each subsequent job he takes, his initial success is less and the amount of mess he leaves behind is more.
    the season before he joined spurs, they were champions League finalists and now they look set to miss out on European football and Harry kane might be buggering off too.

  19. #39

    Re: VAR official and referee WTF

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    What is their xG these days? I remember there was a point on his first good run where it looked like they were winning games they shouldn’t and then it did all go to shit.

    Also Spurs aren’t adventurous enough under Jose and it really played into Man United’s hands.
    they have outperformed xG this season, and Chelsea and Liverpool have underperformed. that only tells part of the story though. they are definitely improving under ole.

  20. #40

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Jose has totally ****ed up spurs in the space of a couple of seasons.
    with each subsequent job he takes, his initial success is less and the amount of mess he leaves behind is more.
    the season before he joined spurs, they were champions League finalists and now they look set to miss out on European football and Harry kane might be buggering off too.
    I can't feel sorry for Spurs as Mourinho was given a king's ransom to buy players by Daniel Levy, this after he wouldn't give Pochettino a penny.

    Poch's and Spurs's champions league final defeat was viewed as failure by his boss and he's getting exactly what he deserves.

    It must be doubly hard to bear seeing rivals West Ham doing so well, spending very little to boot!

    Looks like Mourinho's days are numbered.

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