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Works hard most of the time, falls over a bit too easily, complains a bit too much, capable of moments for absolute magic but not often enough. Not as good at free kicks as Whitts was.
Wales Online are running a story that suggests we didn’t get the best out of him and I think there is truth in that.
Playing in a team struggling to win is never easy and the support he needed wasn’t always there.
But my overall feeling is still that he is over hyped.
What do you think?
He's easily our best player technically, he's also performed well overall this season. The problem is we've had two managers who employ a style that won't get the best out of a player like Wilson. He spends half the game watching the ball fly over his head, watching him for Wales and Derby he'd play one twos, use clever movement to get away from players. Here there's quite often nobody near him, our midfield seem incapable of finding him with a good pass and the only player that makes decent runs is Kieffer Moore
I don't think anyone who's seen him play for Derby or Wales can doubt his quality, the issue is we don't play football on the floor so there's no real point in us having him.
Wilson is a good player at this level and has played pretty well for us, but I was expecting more when we signed him. Our style of play probably doesn't get the best out of him, but I still think there is something lacking. He hasn't contributed as much as Tomlin did last season.
I doubt that he has a future at Liverpool, so it will be interesting to see if any Premier League clubs try to sign him this summer, or whether he'll be back out on loan next season.
Couldn’t see anyone paying the rumoured fee that was bandied about pre season.
It was mentioned plenty of times on here in recent years that the way we played meant that Premier League clubs would be reluctant to loan their better, more technical, young players to us. Harry Wilson was the player who disproved that theory, but he hasn’t made the impact here that he did at Hull and Derby and he scored more goals for Bournemouth in the Premier League than he’s done for us.
For me, Wilson has to share some responsibility for his limited impact, but his team mates, particularly our central midfield bear a greater responsibility for not being creative enough to utilise his talent to best effect. Wilson has scored a couple of excellent goals for Wales this season which have offered evidence of what might have been if we had more players on his wavelength - Juergen Klopp has been the Premier League manager most amenable to loaning us players, will he continue to be after this season if we don’t attempt to change what’s been the Cardiff Way since 2014?
Paul, I’m not entirely sure that that theory has been disproved. You might argue that Liverpool see no future for the likes of Wilson, Ojo or indeed Grujic as Liverpool players so their primary concern is to get them off the books and save money. If Liverpool, or any Premier League side had a player in whom they see a future would they loan him to us ? I’m not entirely sure.Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I'd take a fully-fit Tomlin over Wilson every day. Fat chance of that however.
I said much the same around the start of January.
As you say though Tomlin seems content with earning his money and just kicking along doing nothing of note.
I think they would, it depends who we are competing with of course. We are clearly not the man City of the championship but I also don't think many of our opponents are.
If they are prepared to loan to the championship then the quality of the players is going to be lower wherever, I think one of the most valuable things a young player can get is competitive minutes on the pitch. You could even argue a season somewhere playing a different style with more physicality could even be beneficial to a players overall growth.
Most loans I'm sure are down to nepotism.
His season is comparable to Harvey Elliot who is being raved about for what he's producing at such a young age. Judging by most recent game, Blackburn are more natural fit for Elliot than we've been for Wilson this year.
If we're going to remember one moment this year we should think about the first goal against Birmingham here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9WCbLFoh-s
At 0.08 seconds you can see Wilson has every right to pass defender and shoot on favoured left-foot but instead sets up Glatzel for a relatively easy chance. Context being that Moore had gone down in Jacks game before and, despite changing game for us against Stoke in preceding away game, Glatzel was still primarily a bench option and needing boost to his confidence. That is a sign of strong leadership skills by Harry.
I would also add that if we could attend games he would be the one player in our side you would turn up to watch, rather than watching the team as a whole
Not sure he thought Glatzel needed a boost while making that pass to be fair.
He simply passed to a player who had more space.
I think he's in the totally wrong side for his skills. You wouldn't put Ciaron Brown in the Swansea side....
There is no way he is a £20m player and it is questionable whether he is good enough for any Premier League side. While the way CC plays may not be conducive to his strengths, if he was the player his reputation previously indicated, he should have been able to adapt his game to the way we play.
I can't see any clubs willing to pay anything like the valuation Liverpool are rumoured to expect and wouldn't be surprised if he was to go back out on loan where he could see out his Liverpool contract (if it doesn't expire at the end of the season) or signed by a Championship club for a relatively low price with much reduced wages.
I could imagine him doing ok at somewhere like Villa.
I haven't been able to take to him. No doubt he's good player but I agree that he's over-hyped. A star will always perform, regardless of the quality of others around them.
I'm not keen on what I've seen of his attitude as he comes across as a petulant child when decisions go against him. I've noticed that he's partial to a little dive now and then too, which I cannot stand.
He probably hasn't got a future at Liverpool and will likely go to other another Championship club over the summer or a newly promoted PL club; I wouldn't be sorry to see him go.
Because he is Welsh we have all wanted it to work so much but it just hasn’t for a variety of reasons.
We are very much a workman like team and he is a luxury unfortunately we cannot accommodate.
I hope he finds a permanent club now as there’s an exciting few years coming up for Wales.
Won't be gutted to lose him, just about sums it up for me.
Says it all about our side that one technically good player is considered a luxury we can't accommodate
I thought the 'luxury we cannot accommodate' comment was a bit weird considering Wilson has started 29 Championship games and featured in four more from the bench. Only five players have stared more games than Wilson this season - Nelson (39), Morrison (36), Moore (35), Vaulks (34) and Bacuna (30). Wilson's definitely been accommodated.
Not talking about just purely being picked to play - but being able to get him the ball in positions,
with willing runners and support, where his obvious talent can have an impact.
It’s a waste him having to drop to deep to go and get the ball 70 yards away from goal.
Having said that it’s harder to analyse and follow a player on TV coverage alone and have balanced judgment when your not in a stadium.
Wilson has scored one goal in his last 21 appearances for City.
I can't see any Premier League team being interested in him next season. I reckon he'll almost certainly wind up at another Championship club on loan once again.
Second in the division for assists
I'd hoped he'd have scored more though, I think a lot of fans (myself included) may have expected a little bit much considering the type of player he is and the type of team we are
I have no idea how reliable any of the 'assists' tallies are - they seem to vary and some of the so-called assists just take the piss. For instance, the BBC awarded Wilson an assist on Saturday for the first goal!
I presume corners and free kicks get credited as assists, as I don't recall Wilson providing too many from open play. There have been a few decent ones for sure, but not enough to rank him second in the division.
Here's how its broken down by WhoScored and it seems fair enough to me. 11 assists, 2 from freekicks and 4 corners, rest from open play https://www.whoscored.com/Players/33...w/Harry-Wilson
I think an assist for the Vaulks goal is fair, everyone's expecting a Wilson shot but he backheels it, giving Vaulks a clear sight at goal between the wall and the rest of Blackburn's defence.
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