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    Re: McCarthy says his time at the club has been "educational", but not a success.

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    I think your idea of what Cardiff City is, is somewhat skewed. And based on a made-up version of the past. We are a capital city club, with a billionaire owner and Premier League aspirations. We're not a small club owned by the local scrap dealer from an insignificant northern town.
    the capital city side of things is a red herring

    Cardiff is the capital city of a country with a very small population and its not a very big city compared to Leeds, Liverpool , etc

    We are a medium sized club at our rightful place

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    Re: McCarthy says his time at the club has been "educational", but not a success.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    the capital city side of things is a red herring

    Cardiff is the capital city of a country with a very small population and its not a very big city compared to Leeds, Liverpool , etc

    We are a medium sized club at our rightful place
    Cardiff is comparable with Leeds. And Liverpool has two football teams. We are traditionally a medium-size club. But we have a bigger stadium than Brighton, Norwich, Leicester, Wolves etc and we've proven that we can more than hold our own as a Premier League club off the pitch. Dream big my friend.

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    Re: McCarthy says his time at the club has been "educational", but not a success.

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Cardiff is comparable with Leeds. And Liverpool has two football teams. We are traditionally a medium-size club. But we have a bigger stadium than Brighton, Norwich, Leicester, Wolves etc and we've proven that we can more than hold our own as a Premier League club off the pitch. Dream big my friend.
    Cardiff has less than half the population of Leeds.

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    Re: McCarthy says his time at the club has been "educational", but not a success.

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Cardiff has less than half the population of Leeds.
    What about population per football league club in the area though? I wouldn’t have a clue on that but Newport are the only ones near to us, Leeds most probably have a few more.

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    Re: McCarthy says his time at the club has been "educational", but not a success.

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Cardiff has less than half the population of Leeds.
    Something must have changed. I'm pretty sure Leeds had a population listed at around 400,000 within the last 20 years.

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    Re: McCarthy says his time at the club has been "educational", but not a success.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    the capital city side of things is a red herring

    Cardiff is the capital city of a country with a very small population and its not a very big city compared to Leeds, Liverpool , etc

    We are a medium sized club at our rightful place
    Cardiff has the 11th largest population in the UK. 2 of the cities above us are in Scotland so we're the 9th largest city in the pyramid.

    Brighton, Burnley, Leicester, Newcastle, Southampton, West Bromwich & Wolverhampton all have smaller populations than Cardiff and all have Premier League teams

    I think NYCBlue is right in that you have a somewhat skewed view of modern Cardiff City. We've not finished below 12th in the Championship for over a decade, reached the Premier League twice and both domestic cup finals. We have modern facilities and a modern stadium in a great city which is still growing. This is a club that is capable of more than a team of workhorses

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    Re: McCarthy says his time at the club has been "educational", but not a success.

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Cardiff has the 11th largest population in the UK. 2 of the cities above us are in Scotland so we're the 9th largest city in the pyramid.

    Brighton, Burnley, Leicester, Newcastle, Southampton, West Bromwich & Wolverhampton all have smaller populations than Cardiff and all have Premier League teams

    I think NYCBlue is right in that you have a somewhat skewed view of modern Cardiff City. We've not finished below 12th in the Championship for over a decade, reached the Premier League twice and both domestic cup finals. We have modern facilities and a modern stadium in a great city which is still growing. This is a club that is capable of more than a team of workhorses
    Cardiff has a bigger population than West Brom, Burnley and Wolverhampton, but is smaller than the others mentioned

    Newcastle 809,000; Brighton 607,000; Leicester 552,000; Southampton 924,000; Cardiff 478,000

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    Re: McCarthy says his time at the club has been "educational", but not a success.

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Cardiff has a bigger population than West Brom, Burnley and Wolverhampton, but is smaller than the others mentioned

    Newcastle 809,000; Brighton 607,000; Leicester 552,000; Southampton 924,000; Cardiff 478,000
    Newcastle? Are you including places such as Cramlington, Whitley Bay, North Shields, Blyth, Seaton Delaval, Seaton Burn etc? All not in Newcastle but in the Newcastle area as much as Barry, Treforest, Pontypridd, Caerphilly etc are in the Cardiff area. Driving across the Newcastle city area both west to east and north to south is certainly a much quicker drive than the Cardiff equivalent.

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    Re: McCarthy says his time at the club has been "educational", but not a success.

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Cardiff has a bigger population than West Brom, Burnley and Wolverhampton, but is smaller than the others mentioned

    Newcastle 809,000; Brighton 607,000; Leicester 552,000; Southampton 924,000; Cardiff 478,000
    Those aren't the population of the cities themselves. Southampton's population is 250,000, that 924,000 figure is most likely the South Hampshire built up area which includes Portsmouth, Eastleigh, Gosport etc. Same for the others, that Brighton figure is probably East Sussex, for Leicester that's its urban area and Newcastle's is Tyneside which includes Gateshead, Jarrow, South Shields etc

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