The big so called Six should have a 20 point deduction for bringing the game into disrepute so no CL next season.
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The big so called Six should have a 20 point deduction for bringing the game into disrepute so no CL next season.
That would be brilliant....no relegation no? Just for a year?Originally Posted by Whisperer
Obviously the football authorities love to place financial penalties on players and managers for bringing the game into disrepute so what’s good for the goose as they say.
They absolutely should be punished. I'd genuinely like to see them not re-admitted to domestic and european competitions until ownership is changed to a fan ownership model. But I am sure that would be legally impossible as you'd effectively be stripping value from the shareholders and that isn't really fair; and it is even worse for fans than what happened to Rangers as they have nothing to watch at all.
Or we could have a points deduction - say 30 points for the EPL clubs. But I'd argue that this devalues the leagues even more than not having them there at all. It would openly be a farce: Man City could "earn" 90 points but finish mid-table on 60 because of the penalties.
Block access to the ECL? That sounds more like it but is hardly going to hurt Spurs, Arsenal or even Liverpool is it? Although blocking it for 3 years would make sense. My fear is UEFA seem to have had their belly tickled by last night's news and the vitriol and desire for retribution and punishment seems to have dissipated.
So actually I think the best penalty could actually be something that isn't dressed up as a penalty at all. Government are going to look at the way football works, and have made clear that notwithstanding the death of the ESL, they will be looking at ownership models and fairness. Anything they do to level the playing field will be devastating for these "super clubs" because it will increase the risk they don't get access to the money they need to keep the kite flying.
The six English clubs involved have shown their true colours, so the damage to their reputations has been done.
Uefa president Aleksander Ceferin said the six English clubs were "back in the fold", adding: "The important thing now is that we move on, rebuild the unity that the game enjoyed before this and move forward together."
I think these clubs may get away with trying it.
Is there some sort of amnesty for those involved in coup attempts in 2021?
One thing we have learnt in 2021 is if you need a coup doing, don't ask an American.
They're gonna get away with it. They should all be fined, docked points and banned from Europe for a few years but it won't happen
What reputations? I don't think it's made a blind bit of difference personally. Everyone knows that they're in it for the money and until now not a lot of people cared
This so called Super League was a bit like planning a lads holiday, before checking it was okay with the missus first.
and all turning up at the airport without any flights or accomodation booked
"IF YOU LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY, YOU WILL HEAR THE GODS LAUGHING"
This is, I think a very apt quote from a film
The film title is, in a way quite apt too
Question for you. What film is it
(try not to just type the quote into Google - that makes it far too easy, it's not that hard anyway)
Inter and Atletico have backed out now.
apparently uefa are now coming under pressure to review the "highest coefficient qualifiers" in the forthcoming rule changes to come in in 2024.
if they were in place this season it would likely mean that Liverpool and Chelsea would get champions League football even if they didn't qualify .
now their excess greed looks like it may **** that up for them
This is important, as we are in danger of falling back on a 'new version' of the Champions League, that isn't that far away from what the ESL was suggesting. Qualification for big clubs who didn't make it the proper way, seems like a closed shop to me.
I did think for a while that the ESL was just a smokescreen. Big fuss over ESL, gradually calms down, UEFA steps in, everyone breathes a sigh of relief that football has been saved, and meanwhile the big clubs get exactly what they were after in the first place - perpetual and unopposed qualification.
I'm surprised Barcelona haven't officially pulled out and issued an apology yet.
Juve and Real are a different matter. Homes of the conspirators in chief!
Barcelona are in serious shit debt wise (as are Real and Milan), I think for them, this was a last desperate attempt to keep on living in the fashion to which they have become accustomed. Unless another scheme emerges, they are very soon going to have to face the cold hard reality of living within their means. I suggest a few seasons of Russel Slade to clear out the big earners and start afresh.
Russ El Slade....I like it
Perez thinks it isn't over yet, it's merely "on standby"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56842442
I was thinking what happens now? To hear Pep talking last night you’d think things were now back to normal and things can carry on as before - I hope not and I think not. Florentino Perez certainly doesn’t think so and I bet those men who made grovelling apologies in the last couple of days to the “legacy fans” they were prepared to ride roughshod over on Sunday don’t either.
I think back to the punishment meted out to Wigan last season because of the actions of people who saw that club as merely a money making exercise and struggle to see a difference between that and what those who
were both stupid and arrogant enough to not see that their declaration that they were dropping everyone else in it to go off and form their own free from relegation megabucks competition while also declaring that they will carry on in their domestic leagues would not be accepted as some sort of fait accompli did -these people need to be driven out of football,
yes, this must not be a learning opportunity for the elite clubs to realise what they did wrong and come back in a few years having addressed that.
the governing body have to take steps to completely kill the idea here and now.
I think it's quite simple, punish our clubs - 20 point deduction would make next seasons PL an absolute cracker. Let RM, Barca, Juve crack on with whatever shit they're up to - if it gets off the ground and is successful I think it would be something far removed form football, you've got the Juve president banging on about Fortnite and such.. I don't see them attracting much support to some second rate mediterranean friendly tournament unless they completely re-invent the game - then they wouldn't be footballs concern.
This is precisely what I think. Nobody said "Oh but you're only punishing the fans" when the likes of Wigan and Portsmouth were punished for their owners actions. The same should apply here. Points deductions and bans from Europe please.
That’s not true. There was a lot of sympathy for the fans of both clubs. The difference is that there were already rules in place (voted for by the clubs themselves) regarding punishments for going into administration. I’m not sure if there are any rules in place regarding the ESL nonsense. It would be right and proper for these clubs (and especially their owners and executives) to be punished in some way, but it’ll be difficult for the authorities if they haven’t broken any of the current rules.
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