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    Re: Kicking off in Bath Pub Sir Kier Banned Video ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    It's more worrying that some people think there's only a choice between 2 parties, that it's either Labour or Conservative.

    It's such a narrow mindset. I am far more broad minded. I hate all right wing parties.
    Plaid Cymru are nationalist

    Thats right wing isn't it ?

    I like plaids social policy but some of their supporters basically hate the English

    Which is unfair

    I only hate English tories

    Which is fair enough

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    Re: Kicking off in Bath Pub Sir Kier Banned Video ?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Plaid Cymru are nationalist

    Thats right wing isn't it ?

    I like plaids social policy but some of their supporters basically hate the English

    Which is unfair

    I only hate English tories

    Which is fair enough
    No. Firstly, there is a lot of debate as to whether nationalism is an ideology or just a concept that gets added/used by parties. Regardless of that, nationalism is neither left nor right wing as it is not a class based conception of politics much like how environmentalism is neither left nor right wing as that is not based on the traditional class cleavage. As a result you got a lot of flavours of nationalism that can be utilised by left or right, for instance you get the extreme blood and soil style nationalism associated with Nazism and is more commonly found among right wing parties. Plaid Cymru's nationalism is more inclusionary and not based on ethnicity or race which is why it fits in nicely with their left wing politics, they are based around the idea of self determination rather than expansion or cultural superiority. They are a socialist party who seek self determination.

    Are there people in Plaid who hate the English? Of course there are, but there are nutjobs in every party.

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    Re: Kicking off in Bath Pub Sir Kier Banned Video ?

    Wonder what will happen to Dictator Duckford, if the teetotal barsteward tries to enter a pub in Wales.

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    Re: Kicking off in Bath Pub Sir Kier Banned Video ?

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Wonder what will happen to Dictator Duckford, if the teetotal barsteward tries to enter a pub in Wales.
    Absolutely Nothing.

  5. #5

    Re: Kicking off in Bath Pub Sir Kier Banned Video ?

    War, huh, yeah
    What is it good for


    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Absolutely Nothing.

    Good choice of song.

  6. #6

    Re: Kicking off in Bath Pub Sir Kier Banned Video ?

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    War, huh, yeah
    What is it good for





    Good choice of song.
    Say it again, Y'all...

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    Re: Kicking off in Bath Pub Sir Kier Banned Video ?

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Wonder what will happen to Dictator Duckford, if the teetotal barsteward tries to enter a pub in Wales.
    Nothing too wrong with Mark Drakeford, using the English as guinea pigs more than once over the last year or so seems a good move to me. We can watch Johnson the buffoon foolhardily jump the gun masquerading as the people’s hero when it’s a dangerous bluster playing with folk’s lives. I’m quite ok waiting and staying above ground and breathing.

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    Re: Kicking off in Bath Pub Sir Kier Banned Video ?

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Nothing too wrong with Mark Drakeford, using the English as guinea pigs more than once over the last year or so seems a good move to me. We can watch Johnson the buffoon foolhardily jump the gun masquerading as the people’s hero when it’s a dangerous bluster playing with folk’s lives. I’m quite ok waiting and staying above ground and breathing.

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    Re: Kicking off in Bath Pub Sir Kier Banned Video ?

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Nothing too wrong with Mark Drakeford, using the English as guinea pigs more than once over the last year or so seems a good move to me. We can watch Johnson the buffoon foolhardily jump the gun masquerading as the people’s hero when it’s a dangerous bluster playing with folk’s lives. I’m quite ok waiting and staying above ground and breathing.
    Mr Cautious won't let the pubs open because, in his eyes, people can pop down the Bay with a few cans and drink as much as they want with no social distancing, and pop a few 'laughing gas canisters' as well. Seems OK, and if our hospitality industry goes down the tubes so be it.
    I was in a pub in 'guinea pig' England last week and the safety rules and regs in place were first class and the beer was good too.

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    Re: Kicking off in Bath Pub Sir Kier Banned Video ?

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Mr Cautious won't let the pubs open because, in his eyes, people can pop down the Bay with a few cans and drink as much as they want with no social distancing, and pop a few 'laughing gas canisters' as well. Seems OK, and if our hospitality industry goes down the tubes so be it.
    I was in a pub in 'guinea pig' England last week and the safety rules and regs in place were first class and the beer was good too.
    You're Andrew "arty" Davies and I claim my £5!!

    Are you suggesting that regulations/laws should be changed because a tiny fraction of the population break said regulations/laws?

    Looking at the footage at the time it looked to me that a sizeable number down the Bay weren't old enough to go into pubs so how would opening such venues stop such gatherings?

    I suspect you've inhaled a few too many "laughing gas canisters."

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    Re: Kicking off in Bath Pub Sir Kier Banned Video ?

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Mr Cautious won't let the pubs open because, in his eyes, people can pop down the Bay with a few cans and drink as much as they want with no social distancing, and pop a few 'laughing gas canisters' as well. Seems OK, and if our hospitality industry goes down the tubes so be it.
    I was in a pub in 'guinea pig' England last week and the safety rules and regs in place were first class and the beer was good too.
    If our Hospitality industry goes down the tubes, i'll paint your house and mow your lawn for free. It aint gonna happen.

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    Re: Kicking off in Bath Pub Sir Kier Banned Video ?

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    No. Firstly, there is a lot of debate as to whether nationalism is an ideology or just a concept that gets added/used by parties. Regardless of that, nationalism is neither left nor right wing as it is not a class based conception of politics much like how environmentalism is neither left nor right wing as that is not based on the traditional class cleavage. As a result you got a lot of flavours of nationalism that can be utilised by left or right, for instance you get the extreme blood and soil style nationalism associated with Nazism and is more commonly found among right wing parties. Plaid Cymru's nationalism is more inclusionary and not based on ethnicity or race which is why it fits in nicely with their left wing politics, they are based around the idea of self determination rather than expansion or cultural superiority. They are a socialist party who seek self determination.

    Are there people in Plaid who hate the English? Of course there are, but there are nutjobs in every party.
    Ladies and Gentlemen that was a party political broadcast by Adam Price , Plaid Cymru

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    Re: Kicking off in Bath Pub Sir Kier Banned Video ?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Ladies and Gentlemen that was a party political broadcast by Adam Price , Plaid Cymru


    You asked a question, I gave you an answer

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    Re: Kicking off in Bath Pub Sir Kier Banned Video ?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Plaid Cymru are nationalist

    Thats right wing isn't it ?

    I like plaids social policy but some of their supporters basically hate the English

    Which is unfair

    I only hate English tories

    Which is fair enough

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