Decent person with the wrong party. But that's what she believes in so good luck to her. I dot hope Labour takes it back though.Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
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Decent person with the wrong party. But that's what she believes in so good luck to her. I dot hope Labour takes it back though.
Seriously? Plaid need to do better, but Leanne Wood wasn't the answer.
The answer IS probably someone at the head of the party from the Valleys who seems credible.
As the only real left-wing alternative in Wales, Plaid have to do something to make up some ground in South East Wales.
I think a lot of people vote Labour just because they can't stand the Tories. I voted Plaid in West Carmarthen and part of me thinks it might have been wiser to vote labour , considering the margins.
Think you think I'm making a different point (Tories shouldn't have won) to one I was trying to make (look at our bizarre voting system and how it doesn't effectively represent people) but hey-ho.with the man doubling his majority you have to admit you're clutching at straws there surge. I hope you have lots of straws in that case.
I predicted yesterday Labour would win Rhondda(bit of inside info). Hope you all lumped on it.
Labour candidate is actually well thought of and will not disappoint.
Tories take Clwyd from Labour in a very tight contest
That’s the only one they took in their targeted North Wales Labour seats though it seems.
yes they would have been hoping for a lot more than this!
can she be elected on the regional list? Or was it all or nothing on the constituency poll?
Pretty sure she wasn’t on the regional list.
She's not on the list
Any reason for that? It's really disappointing news someone like her is now missing whereas we can expect some Abolish louts to get in.
I don't know, its strange as well because Plaid weren't particularly confident of holding the seat going in
All the smaller parties seem to be getting a kicking, Labour, Tories & Plaid well ahead of the rest atm. Hopefully that means the pre election Abolish hype was misplaced
Lib Dems and UKIP getting a right kicking, seem to be in the hundreds in most seats
I agree itll be a shame if shes not in the Sennedd. Plaid dont look like they're going to gain any constituency seats so will hope of increasing their representation by gaining some regional seats from UKIP.
Its a strange one though. The polls immediately before the election looked pretty bad for Plaid but they're picking up votes. Up 1,200 in West Carmarthen, up 200 Clwyd South, up 2,200 in Preseii, up 2,200 in Wrexham, up 2,000 in Montgomery, up 1,000 in Gower
Disappointing results in Aberconwy & Caerphilly for them though
could she have been a candidate and on regional list tho? I don’t understand how this crazy system works.
Yes, she was a constituency candidate and on the list last time. For some reason she isn't on it this time
Mark Reckless (too many drinks in the Westminster bar to vote on a budget when he was an MP) got 3.3% of the vote. I don't swear often on here but he's an absolute prick.
seems like a good night for labour
I think I saw aswell that Neil Hamilton got less than 1000 votes. Hope that's the end of him too.
Preseli Pembrokeshire:
i)Tories win with 39.0% of the vote and if combined with Reform would get 42.9%.
ii) Labour second with 34.6% but if combined with Plaid would have 54.1%
Carmarthen West & Pembrokeshire South:
i) Tories win with 35.5% of the vote and if combined with Reform and UKIP would get 39.9%
ii) Labour second with 32.6% but if combined with Plaid would get 53.5%
I know it still doesn't work like that but in another universe Labour and Plaid have taken one of those seats each rather than losing both to Tories.
Dreadful night for plaid , vote hardly moved here come the excuses
Good night for Labour but great that drakeford will be stepping down to give a new vibrant leader a chance to pull away
Laughing my arse off at the conservatives , cocky as feck , drooling on about the 22 stale years of Labour and all that crap
Opinion polls in last few days of the election showing a gain in conservative support clearly brought out the good men and women of Wales to get to the polling stations and show up where it mattered to keep the tories out of power in Wales
God bless you all
There were never going to be massive gains for Plaid. It's all about them becoming the serious left option in Wales and a long term plan for independence.
Their manifesto was practically the same as Labour and independence will grow when hopefully Scotland and Ireland go.
I’m so pleased that my country men and women still want decency and values. England needs a good look at itself. Good on the Scots too.
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