Senedd election prediction

**NYCBlue** · 07-05-21, 21:41

Originally Posted by Dave Blue

I’m so pleased that my country men and women still want decency and values. England needs a good look at itself. Good on the Scots too.

This is why Wales and Scotland need independence. It's the only way to break free of Westminster and Tory rule.

**surge** · 07-05-21, 21:46

Originally Posted by NYCBlue

This is why Wales and Scotland need independence. It's the only way to break free of Westminster and Tory rule.

I don't see any issue with independence and a Welsh Conservative government. The concern is that we don't have a Welsh Conservative party as they currently can't offer anything distinctive for what is clearly a different population/part of the world, and only time a Tory mentions Wales is when they try to win more votes in England.

**SLUDGE FACTORY** · 07-05-21, 21:51

Originally Posted by Dave Blue

I’m so pleased that my country men and women still want decency and values. England needs a good look at itself. Good on the Scots too.

Nice one

**SLUDGE FACTORY** · 07-05-21, 21:56

Jane Hutt gives the tories a leathering in the Vale of Glamorgan

Get in there !

**SLUDGE FACTORY** · 07-05-21, 21:58

Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman

There were never going to be massive gains for Plaid. It's all about them becoming the serious left option in Wales and a long term plan for independence.

Their manifesto was practically the same as Labour and independence will grow when hopefully Scotland and Ireland go.

The thing is the public clearly don't see them as a left wing option

**surge** · 07-05-21, 22:05

Apparently, Plaid Cymru were only 21 votes away from a second seat in the North Wales region. Out of 60,000. Ouch.

https://nation.cymru/news/live-blog-...nedd-election/

12 more seats to be declared.

**Harry Paget Flashman** · 07-05-21, 22:08

Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

The thing is the public clearly don't see them as a left wing option

Most think Labour are.

And if you consider Labour as the left wing option why would you shift to Plaid in this election when Drakeford has been great for 12 months.

Longer term independence becomes a greater issue esp if Scotland goes. If they do watch Labour in Wales start to follow.

**SLUDGE FACTORY** · 07-05-21, 22:17

Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman

Most think Labour are.

And if you consider Labour as the left wing option why would you shift to Plaid in this election when Drakeford has been great for 12 months.

Longer term independence becomes a greater issue esp if Scotland goes. If they do watch Labour in Wales start to follow.

you hope

**J R Hartley** · 07-05-21, 22:19

Dinosaurs in the Valleys are still protesting against Maggie Thatcher. The woman who stands for Labour in Merthyr is a self serving **** , she don’t even know the name of the town ffs. Heartbreaking.

**J R Hartley** · 07-05-21, 22:24

Time to shake it up I reckon. People over 55 shouldn’t be allowed to vote. Old ****’s pulling the ladder up and destroying the younger generations future.

**bobh** · 08-05-21, 07:58

Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Time to shake it up I reckon. People over 55 shouldn’t be allowed to vote. Old ****’s pulling the ladder up and destroying the younger generations future.

Tosser

Following your logic, Oldies shouldn't be allowed to govern either.

Then we'll have real playground politics

**Charles Bukowski** · 08-05-21, 08:15

Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Time to shake it up I reckon. People over 55 shouldn’t be allowed to vote. Old ****’s pulling the ladder up and destroying the younger generations future.

Following these rules there would be no Brexit!👍

**Former Labour leader** · 07-05-21, 22:54

Looks like magic 30 seats for Labour.
'Duckford' done good.

**SLUDGE FACTORY** · 07-05-21, 23:01

Originally Posted by Former Labour leader

Looks like magic 30 seats for Labour.
'Duckford' done good.

Remarkable really . I would like him to put his feet up and have a nap in a year or so .

**Tuerto** · 07-05-21, 23:14

Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Remarkable really . I would like him to put his feet up and have a nap in a year or so .

The people of Cardiff West don't agree.

**insider** · 07-05-21, 23:03