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    Re: Hammering For Labour In Hartlepool

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Starmer is just another Tory in disguise isn’t he? Like they all NOW say tony Bliar was. Bob won’t be happy today hey
    The last time a Labour leader not called Tony Blair won a general election was in 1974.

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    Re: Hammering For Labour In Hartlepool

    We're largely waiting to see if there is substance behind Boris' claims and whether people will be ready to listen - either his positive message comes off (and combined with boundary changes, removal of spending cap at elections etc.) Tories continue to dominate England or it becomes obvious that he lacks substance and things might change.

    Already we've seen that the Irish Protocol Boris pushed through in order to get brexit done doesn't hold up but people generally don't care about Northern Ireland.

    In the meantime, Labour needs to become more united as a party because they're judged to a higher standard before people are willing to lend them a vote.

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    Re: Hammering For Labour In Hartlepool

    The result has been diagnosed as Labour still suffering from Long Corbyn

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    Re: Hammering For Labour In Hartlepool

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    The result has been diagnosed as Labour still suffering from Long Corbyn
    you wouldn't believe that if you were one of those faithful to Abbott and her associates. She says it is the departure from Corbyn policies that caused it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    you wouldn't believe that if you were one of those faithful to Abbott and her associates. She says it is the departure from Corbyn policies that caused it.
    Blaming Corbyn for this is genuinely incredible. They won the seat twice under his leadership, with 2017 seeing them up 17% on 2015 while their 2019 result was still better than 2015, this is on Starmer.

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    Re: Hammering For Labour In Hartlepool

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Blaming Corbyn for this is genuinely incredible. They won the seat twice under his leadership, with 2017 seeing them up 17% on 2015 while their 2019 result was still better than 2015, this is on Starmer.
    They were protected in 2019 by massive Brexit Party vote which has now gone to Tories. Corbyn did extremely well in 2017 and his polices were liked in 2019 but his leadership and Labour party weren't.

    In 2021, areas with higher number of graduates have voted Labour in England (slightly) but areas where there are fewer have voted Tories.

    What should be troubling is that areas like Hartlepool were targeted for biggest cuts during austerity years because they would always vote labour but now Tories are spending money they're picking up these deprived areas. How many other areas punished under Tories are now rewarding then with votes?

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