Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
You sometimes talk sense, Sludge.

But not this time.

The Labour Party in England is not dead - it is wounded and may need to change a lot to become electorally successful again.

Everyone involved shares some blame, but you are mostly looking in the wrong direction. Corbyn, Momentum etc are not responsible for the civil war that crippled Labour - they were the main targets.
Its over jon

There is no way back from this now

We have lost seats in working class towns like Bolsover, in towns in the mining and ship building areas of the North East

The local authority power base in the metropolitan areas and big cities is eroding

They ain't coming back