Hammering For Labour In Hartlepool

[Tuerto]

Tony benn talked a good game

But it was all talk

I am chuffed the tories are not governing Wales tonight

You are still trying to sell copies of socialist worker

Its fun , but gets you nowhere

I'd rather be 'Nowhere' than be where you are

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

My vote is my vote. I stay true to myself. If you can’t vote Plaid in a vote for the Senedd then when can you vote them? The only party with Welsh interests at heart. I have an irrational hatred for the self serving Labour Senedd candidate in my area and I will never vote the the Tories so I’m snookered either way. It is what it is.

BOWDEN OUT

Its still a wasted vote

You should have written your weekly shopping list for uncle bert on the polling card

It is what it is

[J R Hartley]

Its still a wasted vote

You should have written your weekly shopping list for uncle bert on the polling card

It is what it is

Stop bumming Wrexham and get a job Linus

[Tuerto]

Stop bumming Wrexham and get a job Linus

He's on Mikes payroll, has to be

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Stop bumming Wrexham and get a job Linus

I work about 80 hours a week , its fecking exhausting

Top lads Wrexham

[J R Hartley]

I work about 80 hours a week , its fecking exhausting

Top lads Wrexham

Watching Pebble Mill and The Chasers with your mother isn’t work ffs

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I'd rather be 'Nowhere' than be where you are

sadly the majority of the country don't share your political doctrine

I can't stand the conservatives but realise that you can either talk the talk and live like a dinosaur or press for a modern alternative to the tories that elbows out Diane abbot and her mob and attracts people in the middle ground who sway towards the tories

You just want to keep spouting power to the people and backing clowns like corbyn

Carry on , enjoy it if its makes you happy

But it won't lead to anything approaching a fairer society because the country has changed , not for the better , but it has .

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Watching Pebble Mill and The Chasers with your mother isn’t work ffs

Well according to the government it is

You are paying my wages you daft ****

[J R Hartley]

Well according to the government it is

You are paying my wages you daft ****

Worth every penny if your mother is as belligerent and bitter as you are. I hope she makes your days endless and joyless.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Worth every penny if your mother is as belligerent and bitter as you are. I hope she makes your days endless and joyless.

Its not my fault your plaid arsewipes took a beating

Dust yourself down

Always another pop in 5 years

[J R Hartley]

Its not my fault your plaid arsewipes took a beating

Dust yourself down

Always another pop in 5 years

North Wales is Tory. Shameless.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

North Wales is Tory. Shameless.

Wrexham Ain't

Tidy little firm

[J R Hartley]

Wrexham Ain't

Tidy little firm

Always in Cardiff’s shadow

[J R Hartley]

Labour absolutely trounced everywhere except Wales.

[Elwood Blues]

6000 majority for the tories

Not only does starmer need to go , I think its the end of Labour

Time for a left of centre party, Labour is done . I vote for them because I will never vote conservative but they are finished in my opinion

A senior Labour source told Nick Watt on Newsnight that this was Boris's Falklands moment, They could see him going on and winning the next election which would mean Starmer going and the left taking over Labour again. which he reckoned would mean the end of the Labour Party

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

In Wales the tories have tried every sneaky trick in the book to get in and its ended up like a wet fart

The people have come out where it mattered and ensured Wales is not governed by the blue devils

The Vale Of Glamorgan win was fantastic , clearly plenty of people in many wealthy areas outside of urban Barry and the Llantwit area have told the tories to sling their hook

Big turnouts in Swansea , Newport and our mighty Capital for Labour , with increased majorities

The valleys sticking with Labour , Plaid kicked out of Rhondda

In England its been a bloodbath and I think English Labour is finished

I think if the English Labour Party formed a anything but tory democratic left of centre alliance then it would have a chance of taking on the blue meanies

That would mean teaming up with disillusioned former liberals .......what the feck has happened to them , independents etc

Scottish Labour is as dead as English Labour , Labour will not gain those 50 plus seats back

So a new centre left English party , relying on the loyalty of Welsh Labour voters , which I think needs to become independent of English Labour is the only chance of having an alternative to the tories , otherwise you may as well stand on a box in Queen Street shouting vote Karl Marx.........its pissing in the wind

Unless the voting system changes to proportional representation coalition government between anti tory parties is the only chance to keep the conservatives out

Starmer is far too weak , he's got to go and to be honest so has the English Labour Party

[Tuerto]

In Wales the tories have tried every sneaky trick in the book to get in and its ended up like a wet fart

The people have come out where it mattered and ensured Wales is not governed by the blue devils

The Vale Of Glamorgan win was fantastic , clearly plenty of people in many wealthy areas outside of urban Barry and the Llantwit area have told the tories to sling their hook

Big turnouts in Swansea , Newport and our mighty Capital for Labour , with increased majorities

The valleys sticking with Labour , Plaid kicked out of Rhondda

In England its been a bloodbath and I think English Labour is finished

I think if the English Labour Party formed a anything but tory democratic left of centre alliance then it would have a chance of taking on the blue meanies

That would mean teaming up with disillusioned former liberals .......what the feck has happened to them , independents etc

Scottish Labour is as dead as English Labour , Labour will not gain those 50 plus seats back

So a new centre left English party , relying on the loyalty of Welsh Labour voters , which I think needs to become independent of English Labour is the only chance of having an alternative to the tories , otherwise you may as well stand on a box in Queen Street shouting vote Karl Marx.........its pissing in the wind

Unless the voting system changes to proportional representation coalition government between anti tory parties is the only chance to keep the conservatives out

Starmer is far too weak , he's got to go and to be honest so has the English Labour Party

So it's English Labour now Fair play you're seriously confused. Before the election results, Drakeford was a **** and Gething could get ****ed as well

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

A senior Labour source told Nick Watt on Newsnight that this was Boris's Falklands moment, They could see him going on and winning the next election which would mean Starmer going and the left taking over Labour again. which he reckoned would mean the end of the Labour Party

keep Welsh Labour independent of England, scrap UK Labour party , form a left of centre democratic anti tory alliance which can team up with Welsh Labour to keep the tories out

Labour party in England is finished , Liberals have had it but a new party emerging from the ashes of both of them and a few independents is the way to go

There are still a majority of this country that will never vote tory , you just have to offer them something new

[Jordi Culé]

keep Welsh Labour independent of England, scrap UK Labour party , form a left of centre democratic anti tory alliance which can team up with Welsh Labour to keep the tories out

Labour party in England is finished , Liberals have had it but a new party emerging from the ashes of both of them and a few independents is the way to go

There are still a majority of this country that will never vote tory , you just have to offer them something new

This left of centre, hybrid, combination party you keep on screaming for, are you suggesting something that was successful as the SDP and Change UK?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

This left of centre, hybrid, combination party you keep on screaming for, are you suggesting something that was successful as the SDP and Change UK?

No , they were a bunch of cults

[Jordi Culé]

No , they were a bunch of cults

You mean there was little support for them?

You've got your supposedly centre left party already in England at the moment being led by Starmer, how's that going at the moment?

[Tuerto]

You mean there was little support for them?

You've got your supposedly centre left party already in England at the moment being led by Starmer, how's that going at the moment?

Exactly. Drakeford has implemented Left wing policy, yet he's alright with that, it seems, the morning after the results.

[goats]

You mean there was little support for them?

You've got your supposedly centre left party already in England at the moment being led by Starmer, how's that going at the moment?

Better than the geography teacher maybe

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

So it's English Labour now Fair play you're seriously confused. Before the election results, Drakeford was a **** and Gething could get ****ed as well

I said Drakeford needed to step down , he's going to

I still think gethin is not good enough

Overall in Wales the result has been outstanding

An independent Welsh Labour Party , which clearly has the voter loyalty the English Labour Party doesn't , teamed up with a modern alternative to English Labour would give those who don't vote tory a chance to form an electable anti tory government

Its as simple as that really

[Tuerto]

I said Drakeford needed to step down , he's going to

I still think gethin is not good enough

Overall in Wales the result has been outstanding

An independent Welsh Labour Party , which clearly has the voter loyalty the English Labour Party doesn't , teamed up with a modern alternative to English Labour would give those who don't vote tory a chance to form an electable anti tory government

Its as simple as that really

An 'Independent' Welsh Labour Party? Stop it now, Sludge, you're cracking me up That can't exist, read the core values of a Labour Movement (although it isn't that) It would have to become a new party in Wales. You're not thinking any of this through, are you?