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  1. #1

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    Swansea wether people like it or not has always had a strong football tradition and has always produced good young local talent or rather found it and developed it

    We have a far larger population to draw from and Cardiff is a far bigger city with a huge pool of youngsters mad on football right on its doorstep from inner city Grangetown, Butetown , Riverside etc

    But they never get seen

    Somethings going wrong

    Nathan Blake was born in Cardiff, lived in Newport yet got spotted by Chelsea

    And there are more

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Swansea wether people like it or not has always had a strong football tradition and has always produced good young local talent or rather found it and developed it

    We have a far larger population to draw from and Cardiff is a far bigger city with a huge pool of youngsters mad on football right on its doorstep from inner city Grangetown, Butetown , Riverside etc

    But they never get seen

    Somethings going wrong

    Nathan Blake was born in Cardiff, lived in Newport yet got spotted by Chelsea

    And there are more
    The amount of really decent youth I’ve played against who hailed from the areas you mention sludge is frightening, they just drift away from football in their late teens, no one comes in and develops them.

  3. #3

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Swansea wether people like it or not has always had a strong football tradition and has always produced good young local talent or rather found it and developed it

    We have a far larger population to draw from and Cardiff is a far bigger city with a huge pool of youngsters mad on football right on its doorstep from inner city Grangetown, Butetown , Riverside etc

    But they never get seen

    Somethings going wrong

    Nathan Blake was born in Cardiff, lived in Newport yet got spotted by Chelsea

    And there are more
    Gareth Bale is the pretty obvious example of a player on our doorstop who was ignored/missed out on, his uncle played for us ffs!

  4. #4

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Gareth Bale is the pretty obvious example of a player on our doorstop who was ignored/missed out on, his uncle played for us ffs!
    We were in Division Four when Chris Pike played for us and would have been in one of the bottom two divisions when Bellamy went to Norwich. I’m fairly sure as well that we were when Bale first teamed up with Southampton. I’m as critical as anyone of our youth development record, but Bale and Bellamy were never going to sign for us as kids.

  5. #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Gareth Bale is the pretty obvious example of a player on our doorstop who was ignored/missed out on, his uncle played for us ffs!
    Yeah, I would've loved to have seen him warming the bench with Rambo in the Cup Final.

  6. #6

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivandobsky View Post
    Yeah, I would've loved to have seen him warming the bench with Rambo in the Cup Final.
    Jones gets way too much stick for not starting with Ramsey in the cup final.

    The kid was just 17, had only started a handful of games in his senior career, playing in a cup final, against a team from a higher division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Jones gets way too much stick for not starting with Ramsey in the cup final.

    The kid was just 17, had only started a handful of games in his senior career, playing in a cup final, against a team from a higher division.
    You think so ? That kid Rooney was tearing up the Premier league at 16. Anyway not meaning to open up old wounds
    And we have to be thankful that Ramsey didn't come along during the Warnock years or we'd have never seen him in a City shirt.

  8. #8

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivandobsky View Post
    You think so ? That kid Rooney was tearing up the Premier league at 16. Anyway not meaning to open up old wounds
    And we have to be thankful that Ramsey didn't come along during the Warnock years or we'd have never seen him in a City shirt.
    Rooney had the physique of a 30 year old at 16 though ramsey was very much a teenager.

    Totally agree with your second point - we'd have loaned him out to Weston super mare

  9. #9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Rooney had the physique of a 30 year old at 16 though ramsey was very much a teenager.

    Totally agree with your second point - we'd have loaned him out to Weston super mare
    Rooney looks about 60 now, birth certificate needs checking

  10. #10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Jones gets way too much stick for not starting with Ramsey in the cup final.

    The kid was just 17, had only started a handful of games in his senior career, playing in a cup final, against a team from a higher division.
    Completely agree, people seem to mix up between what he was and what he became when it came to Rambo at that age

  11. #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Jones gets way too much stick for not starting with Ramsey in the cup final.

    The kid was just 17, had only started a handful of games in his senior career, playing in a cup final, against a team from a higher division.
    By the time of the cup final, Ramsey had started 12 league and cup games out of the previous 18 (including the whole 90 minutes at Middlesbrough) and made a further 3 substitute appearances.

    In his first season at Arsenal, while he was limited to only some brief Premier League appearances, he was given plenty of Champions' League experience.

    He was also the best player we had at the club, even at that young an age.

    Of course Jones should have started him.

  12. #12

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    By the time of the cup final, Ramsey had started 12 league and cup games out of the previous 18 (including the whole 90 minutes at Middlesbrough) and made a further 3 substitute appearances.

    In his first season at Arsenal, while he was limited to only some brief Premier League appearances, he was given plenty of Champions' League experience.

    He was also the best player we had at the club, even at that young an age.

    Of course Jones should have started him.
    I really don't agree. you could see he was going to be a quality player but he was still a kid, and playing against a powerful Portsmouth side
    of those games he had managed a goal against Burnley and one against chasetown.

    and as we played ,4 across the midfield at the time we would have been dropping one of mcphail, Rae, Ledley or whittingham.

  13. #13

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I really don't agree. you could see he was going to be a quality player but he was still a kid, and playing against a powerful Portsmouth side
    of those games he had managed a goal against Burnley and one against chasetown.

    and as we played ,4 across the midfield at the time we would have been dropping one of mcphail, Rae, Ledley or whittingham.
    Rae could have been dropped. Pompey went with a midfield 3 and Rae's aggressive style was completely nullified.

    A better option would have been to drop Hasselbaink and go 4-5-1. Whitts played on the right that day and had a bit of a stinker. He could have been given a freer role with Ramsey out on the right.

    Of course, that would have meant Jones having a plan B.

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