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Thread: Palestine Israel

  1. #241

    Re: Palestine Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    And just like that the facade of intelligence is gone.
    what facade?

  2. #242

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    what facade?
    The one you have desperately trying to keep attached to yourself throughout this thread.

    You behave the same way every time. At first you make a good fist of playing devil's advocate, then you pick a camp and become completely entrenched, unable to listen to anybody else or comprehend what they are saying, eventually start acting like a child, get personal and dismissive of any other opinion and then the thread dies.

    The amount of times a thread like this ends with one of your posts is astounding, it isn't because you were right but because people got tired of banging their head against a wall.

  3. #243

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    The one you have desperately trying to keep attached to yourself throughout this thread.

    You behave the same way every time. At first you make a good fist of playing devil's advocate, then you pick a camp and become completely entrenched, unable to listen to anybody else or comprehend what they are saying, eventually start acting like a child, get personal and dismissive of any other opinion and then the thread dies.

    The amount of times a thread like this ends with one of your posts is astounding, it isn't because you were right but because people got tired of banging their head against a wall.
    you could always block my posts. its not difficult. i would have thought a sagacious individual such as you would have been able to work that out.

  4. #244

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    you could always block my posts. its not difficult. i would have thought a sagacious individual such as you would have been able to work that out.
    No thanks, you have interesting takes sometimes, it just always descends into...

  5. #245

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    Feedback is the most contrary, delusional prick on this MB... ever..

  6. #246

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    You have a need for an interaction with a poster on a football message board?

    Is everything alright at home?
    What an incredibly limp post

  7. #247

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freitag 4.17 View Post
    Feedback is the most contrary, delusional prick on this MB... ever..
    Thanks, I'm flattered I really am

  8. #248

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    What an incredibly limp post
    Yet here you are responding yet again.

  9. #249

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    No thanks, you have interesting takes sometimes, it just always descends into...
    ...Oscar Wilde rapier like wit and devastating repartee

  10. #250

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    This post has run out of arguments.

  11. #251

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    ...Oscar Wilde rapier like wit and devastating repartee
    Something like that

  12. #252

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Something like that

  13. #253

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    I've read through this thread from start to finish and there have been some interesting points raised, as well as some examples of ignorance and trying to win an argument for the sake of it without being properly acquainted with all the facts which is understandable to do as Israel/Palestine is an extremely complicated space. I have spent a lot of time in Israel, West Bank and Gaza, working with NGOs and, during my time there, I have met with Hamas generals, ordinary Gazans, many of whom hate Hamas but are in no position to oppose them, I've met West Bank Palestinian leaders and citizens, Israeli settlers (the vast majority of whom, to pick up a point made earlier, have American accents and no geographical connection to the land). I have also met many Israeli Jews who are completely opposed to the state of Israel, including ultra-orthodox Jews who believe that the Kingdom of Israel should only exist after the coming of the Mashiach, when the Law would be that of the Torah, not the secular law of post 1948 governments. There are also many Israelis who have refused to do military service. They usually get, I think, about 8 months in prison and find it extremely difficult to find employment within Israel thereafter. There are also those people who did serve in the IDF but then joined organisations like Breaking the Silence to expose some of the things that go on a daily and institutional level.

    I notice that one poster has resorted to accusations of 'jew-bashing' although he, ironically, is the only person who has used an antisemitic word in the whole thread. It is important not to conflate anti-zionism with antisemitism and if he wants to read some critiques of Israel, he could start by reading Israeli Jews, Ilan Pappe and Gideon Levy, and American Jews, Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chomsky, among many other Jewish writers and academics.

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    Re: Palestine Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Helen Wiggy View Post
    I've read through this thread from start to finish and there have been some interesting points raised, as well as some examples of ignorance and trying to win an argument for the sake of it without being properly acquainted with all the facts which is understandable to do as Israel/Palestine is an extremely complicated space. I have spent a lot of time in Israel, West Bank and Gaza, working with NGOs and, during my time there, I have met with Hamas generals, ordinary Gazans, many of whom hate Hamas but are in no position to oppose them, I've met West Bank Palestinian leaders and citizens, Israeli settlers (the vast majority of whom, to pick up a point made earlier, have American accents and no geographical connection to the land). I have also met many Israeli Jews who are completely opposed to the state of Israel, including ultra-orthodox Jews who believe that the Kingdom of Israel should only exist after the coming of the Mashiach, when the Law would be that of the Torah, not the secular law of post 1948 governments. There are also many Israelis who have refused to do military service. They usually get, I think, about 8 months in prison and find it extremely difficult to find employment within Israel thereafter. There are also those people who did serve in the IDF but then joined organisations like Breaking the Silence to expose some of the things that go on a daily and institutional level.

    I notice that one poster has resorted to accusations of 'jew-bashing' although he, ironically, is the only person who has used an antisemitic word in the whole thread. It is important not to conflate anti-zionism with antisemitism and if he wants to read some critiques of Israel, he could start by reading Israeli Jews, Ilan Pappe and Gideon Levy, and American Jews, Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chomsky, among many other Jewish writers and academics.
    Excellent post. Thanks.

  15. #255

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helen Wiggy View Post
    I've read through this thread from start to finish and there have been some interesting points raised, as well as some examples of ignorance and trying to win an argument for the sake of it without being properly acquainted with all the facts which is understandable to do as Israel/Palestine is an extremely complicated space. I have spent a lot of time in Israel, West Bank and Gaza, working with NGOs and, during my time there, I have met with Hamas generals, ordinary Gazans, many of whom hate Hamas but are in no position to oppose them, I've met West Bank Palestinian leaders and citizens, Israeli settlers (the vast majority of whom, to pick up a point made earlier, have American accents and no geographical connection to the land). I have also met many Israeli Jews who are completely opposed to the state of Israel, including ultra-orthodox Jews who believe that the Kingdom of Israel should only exist after the coming of the Mashiach, when the Law would be that of the Torah, not the secular law of post 1948 governments. There are also many Israelis who have refused to do military service. They usually get, I think, about 8 months in prison and find it extremely difficult to find employment within Israel thereafter. There are also those people who did serve in the IDF but then joined organisations like Breaking the Silence to expose some of the things that go on a daily and institutional level.

    I notice that one poster has resorted to accusations of 'jew-bashing' although he, ironically, is the only person who has used an antisemitic word in the whole thread. It is important not to conflate anti-zionism with antisemitism and if he wants to read some critiques of Israel, he could start by reading Israeli Jews, Ilan Pappe and Gideon Levy, and American Jews, Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chomsky, among many other Jewish writers and academics.
    Top post

  16. #256

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    Re: Palestine Israel

    I'm not sure that the reason the Muslims hate the Jews is actually explained in the bible.

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    Re: Palestine Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    I'm not sure that the reason the Muslims hate the Jews is actually explained in the bible.
    ĎThe Muslimsí hate Ďthe Jewsí?

    At least Feedback wonít feel so alone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    ĎThe Muslimsí

    At least Feedback wonít feel so alone!
    Perhaps insensitively put but I was trying to respond to sludge's comment about it being caused by the bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Perhaps insensitively put but I was trying to respond to sludge's comment about it being caused by the bible.
    All we do know there is an in bred instructional hatred of Jews that has gone on for centuries.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti..._New_Testament

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