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  1. #1

    Re: Retained list released

    Seems to me disgraceful that the club withdrew contract offer to Joe Bennet because he was injured.
    He’s been an outstanding servant and great contributor who’d done enough to be accommodated in some way.
    Shows how insincere and mercenary it’s all become.

  2. #2

    Re: Retained list released

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Seems to me disgraceful that the club withdrew contract offer to Joe Bennet because he was injured.
    He’s been an outstanding servant and great contributor who’d done enough to be accommodated in some way.
    Shows how insincere and mercenary it’s all become.
    The club isn't a charity

  3. #3

    Re: Retained list released

    Quote Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue View Post
    The club isn't a charity
    Maybe not. I do however remember when it was more of a family including supporters players and everyone else.
    We know that players can’t play forever, and can’t be kept on too long when this is the case. The circumstances around Joe’s unexpected long term injury at a time when his contract was in negotiation and he was playing marvellously, when taken together with his past loyalty and commitment warranted some leeway though in my opinion.
    For example , he could have been put on half wages for 3/4 months during his recovery.
    I’m no doubt very old fashioned but I regard this as very heartless and unnecessary .
    It seems that there’s very little of the esprit de Corps which used to connect us remaining. We can often see this in these forums in fact, and personally I regard the treatment of Joe in this case as a serious indicator of changed attitudes. I do think that those who conduct themselves dishonourably cannot expect to be rewarded with good fortune and success.

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    Re: Retained list released

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Maybe not. I do however remember when it was more of a family including supporters players and everyone else.
    We know that players can’t play forever, and can’t be kept on too long when this is the case. The circumstances around Joe’s unexpected long term injury at a time when his contract was in negotiation and he was playing marvellously, when taken together with his past loyalty and commitment warranted some leeway though in my opinion.
    For example , he could have been put on half wages for 3/4 months during his recovery.
    I’m no doubt very old fashioned but I regard this as very heartless and unnecessary .
    It seems that there’s very little of the esprit de Corps which used to connect us remaining. We can often see this in these forums in fact, and personally I regard the treatment of Joe in this case as a serious indicator of changed attitudes. I do think that those who conduct themselves dishonourably cannot expect to be rewarded with good fortune and success.
    I don't think we've acted dishonourably at all.
    We've offered a contract based on what we think he's worth and what we can afford, he's turned it down thinking he can get more
    Then he's had a nasty injury and everything has changed, he'd obviously be worth less to us now if he can't play for half the season. Vry unfortunate on his part but those are the breaks. It often works the other way around where a player will sign a new contract and then get injured and the club still pick up the bill - think of Isaac Vassell for example.

  5. #5

    Re: Retained list released

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I don't think we've acted dishonourably at all.
    We've offered a contract based on what we think he's worth and what we can afford, he's turned it down thinking he can get more
    Then he's had a nasty injury and everything has changed, he'd obviously be worth less to us now if he can't play for half the season. Vry unfortunate on his part but those are the breaks. It often works the other way around where a player will sign a new contract and then get injured and the club still pick up the bill - think of Isaac Vassell for example.

    True, and that’d certainly have been the case if they’d kept Williams. We’ve had plenty of low contributing injury prone people (Richards etc etc etc) and not complained too much but here’s a player who’s been here a long time , not been injured much and always given heart and soul on and off the field. What’s more, I’m personally of the opinion that he’d have more than repaid it once fit because it’s hard to think of a better player in the championship in that position.
    Maybe Middlesbrough or even Watford will risk three months wages to get him working for them .

  6. #6

    Re: Retained list released

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    True, and that’d certainly have been the case if they’d kept Williams. We’ve had plenty of low contributing injury prone people (Richards etc etc etc) and not complained too much but here’s a player who’s been here a long time , not been injured much and always given heart and soul on and off the field. What’s more, I’m personally of the opinion that he’d have more than repaid it once fit because it’s hard to think of a better player in the championship in that position.
    Maybe Middlesbrough or even Watford will risk three months wages to get him working for them .
    I've been as big a fan of Bennett as anyone on here, even when others were slagging him off, but to offer another deal now would make little sense

  7. #7

    Re: Retained list released

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Seems to me disgraceful that the club withdrew contract offer to Joe Bennet because he was injured.
    He’s been an outstanding servant and great contributor who’d done enough to be accommodated in some way.
    Shows how insincere and mercenary it’s all become.
    Players know the risks and if they have been sensible they'll never need to work again.

    The club can't afford him so time to go.

  8. #8

    Re: Retained list released

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Seems to me disgraceful that the club withdrew contract offer to Joe Bennet because he was injured.
    He’s been an outstanding servant and great contributor who’d done enough to be accommodated in some way.
    Shows how insincere and mercenary it’s all become.
    Where is it stated that the club withdrew a contract offer?

  9. #9

    Re: Retained list released

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Seems to me disgraceful that the club withdrew contract offer to Joe Bennet because he was injured.
    He’s been an outstanding servant and great contributor who’d done enough to be accommodated in some way.
    Shows how insincere and mercenary it’s all become.
    But the club didn`t withdraw a contract offer. They offered him a new contract long before his recent injury but he refused to sign it because he was asking for improved terms. If he had signed it , he would now have a contract but it was him who allowed the deal to lapse before his existing contract ran out.

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