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Thread: The Hand of God

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    The Hand of God

    Watching it again now in ITV4.
    One thing over rides the whole thing for me. What an absolute gem of a man Bobby Robson was.
    One of the best characters iíve ever seen in football.
    Wonderful guy.

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    Re: The Hand of God

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Watching it again now in ITV4.
    One thing over rides the whole thing for me. What an absolute gem of a man Bobby Robson was.
    One of the best characters iíve ever seen in football.
    Wonderful guy.
    I agree

    And I also think Maradona was a cheating tosser

    Ronaldo is another one , amazing talent but a diving cheating tart

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    the "Special one" credits Robson with teaching him everything he knows about football.

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    And that wonderful rag The Sun had him as turnip head when England lost to Sweden at 1992 Euros Front page spread. That paper really is the pits.

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    Robson was an incredibly decent man who truly loved football from what I can gather and to a lesser extent third party stories from people who met him.
    I am sure he would have had his moments, especially with the National side ,but the honesty always was there.
    It is easy to build up someone who has died into something they are not but it appears that he was universally liked and respected not only in football but outside of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
    And that wonderful rag The Sun had him as turnip head when England lost to Sweden at 1992 Euros Front page spread. That paper really is the pits.
    I think that was Graham Taylor, another thoroughly decent man slaughtered by the English press. I’d just moved to London when Italia 90 was on, I found myself wanting England to do well so that Bobby Robson could show them up for the arrogant fools they are. Being a classy guy he never rose to their baiting, just went on to become one of Europe’s most sought after managers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toggs View Post
    I think that was Graham Taylor, another thoroughly decent man slaughtered by the English press. I’d just moved to London when Italia 90 was on, I found myself wanting England to do well so that Bobby Robson could show them up for the arrogant fools they are. Being a classy guy he never rose to their baiting, just went on to become one of Europe’s most sought after managers.
    Got a feeling you may be right, at my age memory goes. But both were very genuine people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
    And that wonderful rag The Sun had him as turnip head when England lost to Sweden at 1992 Euros Front page spread. That paper really is the pits.
    I only buy a paper on a Saturday morning, mainly for Brian Reade’s column in the Daily Mirror but I always make it my duty to grab a few Daily Mirrors and put them in front of The Suns on their rack and a few Guardians in front of the Daily Mails, childish I know but if it confuses a few of those who take those publications I’m a happy man

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    Re: The Hand of God

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I agree

    And I also think Maradona was a cheating tosser

    Ronaldo is another one , amazing talent but a diving cheating tart

    I disagree, it was the officials who missed the handball in Maradona’s case, they should be getting the flak. Similar situation last Monday, I don’t think many can recall the Morecambe ‘keeper’s name with the punching incident or the player who ‘dived’ for their pen but, quite correctly in my opinion, we all pilloried Bobby Madley for his ineptness. You may as well label nearly everyone who’s played the game a cheat, we’ve all tried to hoodwink a ref and I doubt we’ve held our hands up if we’ve succeeded. I’m sure when I played I’ve had goals allowed when I knew for sure I’d got away with a foul but own up and tell the ref, no chance, as well as myself taking the advantage of a dodgy decision the bollocking from team mates and coaches if I didn’t would, I reckon, be justified.

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    The Bobby Robson documentary on Netflix is well worth a watch, probably one of the best football documentaries youíll see. It covers a lot of his time at Barcelona. The respect he had off the likes of Ronaldo and Guardiola is immense.
    Personally, I think the biggest mistake of Robsonís managerial career, was his loyalty to Shilton. I think England could have won Italia 90 with a better keeper and the way he was out jumped by Maradona in 86 cost England dear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    I only buy a paper on a Saturday morning, mainly for Brian Reade’s column in the Daily Mirror but I always make it my duty to grab a few Daily Mirrors and put them in front of The Suns on their rack and a few Guardians in front of the Daily Mails, childish I know but if it confuses a few of those who take those publications I’m a happy man
    It doesn't take much to confuse people who read The Sun and The Daily Nazi

    Fecking awful , racist , bigoted ignorant shite to feed ignorant , stupid minds

    Britain's biggest daily newspapers apparently , says it all

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    Re: The Hand of God

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    I disagree, it was the officials who missed the handball in Maradona’s case, they should be getting the flak. Similar situation last Monday, I don’t think many can recall the Morecambe ‘keeper’s name with the punching incident or the player who ‘dived’ for their pen but, quite correctly in my opinion, we all pilloried Bobby Madley for his ineptness. You may as well label nearly everyone who’s played the game a cheat, we’ve all tried to hoodwink a ref and I doubt we’ve held our hands up if we’ve succeeded. I’m sure when I played I’ve had goals allowed when I knew for sure I’d got away with a foul but own up and tell the ref, no chance, as well as myself taking the advantage of a dodgy decision the bollocking from team mates and coaches if I didn’t would, I reckon, be justified.
    that doesn't excuse the fact that Maradona was a cheat

    Lineker might be annoying as a pundit but he never got up to that sort of crap

    Maradona , Ronaldo , cheats

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    Re: The Hand of God

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
    And that wonderful rag The Sun had him as turnip head when England lost to Sweden at 1992 Euros Front page spread. That paper really is the pits.
    Robson had something like "in the name of Allah, go" after a pre italia 90 friendly with UAE.

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    Re: The Hand of God

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario Miethig View Post
    The Bobby Robson documentary on Netflix is well worth a watch, probably one of the best football documentaries you’ll see. It covers a lot of his time at Barcelona. The respect he had off the likes of Ronaldo and Guardiola is immense.
    Personally, I think the biggest mistake of Robson’s managerial career, was his loyalty to Shilton. I think England could have won Italia 90 with a better keeper and the way he was out jumped by Maradona in 86 cost England dear.
    Woods and Beasant were the other two in the squad, neither a big improvement. If seaman had been born 5 years earlier, then he may have made the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Woods and Beasant were the other two in the squad, neither a big improvement. If seaman had been born 5 years earlier, then he may have made the difference.
    Have a look at Shiltonís display in the 3rd place game. Itís on YouTube and itís laughable. Beasant should have been number 1. Was a good keeper and could save a penalty. Shilton was nowhere near any of those pens in that shoot out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario Miethig View Post
    Have a look at Shilton’s display in the 3rd place game. It’s on YouTube and it’s laughable. Beasant should have been number 1. Was a good keeper and could save a penalty. Shilton was nowhere near any of those pens in that shoot out.
    I remember it all well. Shilton was also at fault for the West Germans goal, reacting too slow.

    Beasant had played two friendlies and only about four top flight seasons, and never in Europe. Expecting him to be the difference between fourth and first place in the world cup is a bit much imo.

    I'd forgotten that Beasant was only in the squad due to Seaman getting an injury, but he was just as inexperienced at the time.

    England had a good record for keepers over many years. Maybe 90 came at a bit of a lull.

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    Re: The Hand of God

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    I disagree, it was the officials who missed the handball in Maradona’s case, they should be getting the flak. Similar situation last Monday, I don’t think many can recall the Morecambe ‘keeper’s name with the punching incident or the player who ‘dived’ for their pen but, quite correctly in my opinion, we all pilloried Bobby Madley for his ineptness. You may as well label nearly everyone who’s played the game a cheat, we’ve all tried to hoodwink a ref and I doubt we’ve held our hands up if we’ve succeeded. I’m sure when I played I’ve had goals allowed when I knew for sure I’d got away with a foul but own up and tell the ref, no chance, as well as myself taking the advantage of a dodgy decision the bollocking from team mates and coaches if I didn’t would, I reckon, be justified.
    Agreed but I remembered Kyle Letheren's name because I'm so old that I remember his father, Glan, playing in goal for a few clubs and being called up to the Welsh squad without ever getting a cap.
    Also, it was definitely Graham Taylor who was labelled turnip head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyncoed Slumdog View Post
    Agreed but I remembered Kyle Letheren's name because I'm so old that I remember his father, Glan, playing in goal for a few clubs and being called up to the Welsh squad without ever getting a cap.
    Also, it was definitely Graham Taylor who was labelled turnip head.
    Anyone who hoodwinks a ref is a cheat

    Bothroyd was a great player of magical skill but a diving cheat

    Peter Wittingham was the sort of player I admired , he never faked it

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    Re: The Hand of God

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    that doesn't excuse the fact that Maradona was a cheat

    Lineker might be annoying as a pundit but he never got up to that sort of crap

    Maradona , Ronaldo , cheats
    That why I wrote ‘nearly everyone’ but if you trawled through footage of every Lineker goal, and there were plenty, you’ll find one or two dodgy ones that he gladly accepted. Footballers, whether pro or parks, have got to accept every advantage as you can bet your balls there’ll be ones that go against you as well. Can you imagine Thierry Henry telling the ref that he handled before that goal against Ireland? And as for Joe Jordan piping up ‘I cannot tell a lie ref, it was I that handled the ball’ in front of thousands of hyper Jocks at Anfield in ‘77. Imagine being such a gentleman like Lineker that you’d miss a penalty in his final game not to upset Sir Bobby Charlton

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    Re: The Hand of God

    Maradona got hacked down at every opportunity in that game ....and Terry Butcher even said he should have smashed Maradona on the halfway line for the greatest World Cup goal ever scored.
    All would be classed at cheating by the letter of the rules.

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