Quote Originally Posted by chrisp_1927 View Post
I think the tfw carriages are mk4's, which are a good few years younger than the hst's. As for the hst's, they may be old but they are still comfortable and with 4 carriages they go like shit off a shovel
The original hst coaches are mk3s but have been significantly upgraded with the removal of slam doors and introduction of sliders - but I take your point.