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Thread: Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

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    Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

    https://www.railtechnologymagazine.c...rdiff-holyhead

    Nice to see ,should be a very nice trip

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    Re: Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

    They'd be hard-pushed to make it any worse....

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    Re: Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

    You still have to go into England.

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    Re: Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

    Quote Originally Posted by tforturton View Post
    They'd be hard-pushed to make it any worse....
    Indeed it can only improve surely. Wow, five coaches too, unbelievable luxury - no more standing!

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    Re: Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

    the article says it went from Holyhead to Cardiff in 2.5 hours? that's surely not right, unless the new train is high speed rail

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    the article says it went from Holyhead to Cardiff in 2.5 hours? that's surely not right, unless the new train is high speed rail
    That's what I was thinking, the "old" service takes four and a half hours plus.

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    Re: Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    the article says it went from Holyhead to Cardiff in 2.5 hours? that's surely not right, unless the new train is high speed rail
    The quickest currently showing is 4.5 hrs. 2.5 hours would be pushing it, non stop.

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    Re: Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

    Quote Originally Posted by IanD View Post
    The quickest currently showing is 4.5 hrs. 2.5 hours would be pushing it, non stop.
    2.5 hrs just plain wrong. 4.5 he journey at best.

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    Re: Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

    Quote Originally Posted by IanD View Post
    The quickest currently showing is 4.5 hrs. 2.5 hours would be pushing it, non stop.
    2.5 hrs just plain wrong. 4.5 hr journey at best.

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    Re: Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

    Quote Originally Posted by Former Labour leader View Post
    2.5 hrs just plain wrong. 4.5 hr journey at best.
    4.5 hrs with limited stops. 2.5 hours must be a typo.

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    Re: Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

    However long it is better than the drive up and back lol

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    Re: Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

    This is actually a bit of a con. The train in the picture is just a slightly re-vamped one that has been running for years - there has been a Diesel Loco and Coaches train from Holyhead ( early am ) to Cardiff and Return ( normally 6pm ) for ages. The same locos are being used, the coaches are a bit newer - but not any newer I think that the ones GWR run with 45 year old HSTs between Cardiff and Taunton everyday. The service was only stopped because of covid that allowed TfW to spruce up the stock.

    The new services from Swansea to Manchester will be an improvment - but they are not coming until December 2022 which is 18 months away - and thats a long time ( remember electrification was going to go all the way to Swansea but then got stopped ).

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    Re: Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

    Quote Originally Posted by Toadstool View Post
    .

    ( remember electrification was going to go all the way to Swansea but then got stopped ).
    I didn't find that shocking

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    Re: Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    However long it is better than the drive up and back lol
    Haha so true. Done it a few times visiting relatives it's a trek whichever route.

    Lovely scenery if you go through mid Wales but its not the most chill drive. Had the sat nav on as well and watching those minutes tick down isn't good. Felt like I'd been driving hours and it still said 3 and a half hours left.

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    Re: Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

    Will probably cost about 100 return

    Rail fares in this country are criminal

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    Re: Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    You still have to go into England.
    Why is that an issue for a small percentage of complete morons though?

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    Re: Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

    Quote Originally Posted by Toadstool View Post
    This is actually a bit of a con. The train in the picture is just a slightly re-vamped one that has been running for years - there has been a Diesel Loco and Coaches train from Holyhead ( early am ) to Cardiff and Return ( normally 6pm ) for ages. The same locos are being used, the coaches are a bit newer - but not any newer I think that the ones GWR run with 45 year old HSTs between Cardiff and Taunton everyday. The service was only stopped because of covid that allowed TfW to spruce up the stock.

    The new services from Swansea to Manchester will be an improvment - but they are not coming until December 2022 which is 18 months away - and thats a long time ( remember electrification was going to go all the way to Swansea but then got stopped ).
    I think the tfw carriages are mk4's, which are a good few years younger than the hst's. As for the hst's, they may be old but they are still comfortable and with 4 carriages they go like shit off a shovel

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    Re: Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

    Need to see carmarthen to aberystwyth and pwllheli to Bangor lines reopen to make a wales circle line

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    Re: Transport for Wales introduces improved Cardiff-Holyhead rail service

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiwbina Blues View Post
    Need to see carmarthen to aberystwyth and pwllheli to Bangor lines reopen to make a wales circle line
    It'd be nice to have a line again to Brecon / Hay as well.

    There's a freight line from Swansea to almost Glynneath and one from Aberdare to Hirwaun. Reopen the old track inbetween and you could maybe have trains from Aberdare and Merthyr to Cardiff and Swansea, which would have to help the area. potentially extend to linkup the heads of the valleys too.

    A proper rail link into the airport terminal building - with a check in desk at Cardiff central where you can leave your bags.

    Open a station to get to the St Fagans park for those who don't want to drive - and have a old style station which you could connect to a steam train that does loops of the park.

    Here ends my party political broadcast

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