Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

Maybe they weren't a family like yours or mine so none of that had to happen. Maybe they wee madly in love and mulled over running off together and living happily ever after.

He was and still is IMO the best player to come out of Wales in my lifetime.

What, better than Bale? - No way!
Giggs had pace, but Bale was another level. Bale could influence a game far greater than Giggs.

[the other bob wilson]

What, better than Bale? - No way!
Giggs had pace, but Bale was another level. Bale could influence a game far greater than Giggs.

I agree, time was Giggs supporters could point to his medal collection as proof of being the better of the two, but I heard Nathan Blake reading out what Bale had won at Real Madrid and it no longer applies - he's won four Champions League winners medals and with at least of them, he had a major influence in deciding the outcome of the Final. Given Bale's attitude to his home country as well, he has to be, possibly, the best Wales player ever and definitely above Giggs.

[goats]

I agree, time was Giggs supporters could point to his medal collection as proof of being the better of the two, but I heard Nathan Blake reading out what Bale had won at Real Madrid and it no longer applies - he's won four Champions League winners medals and with at least of them, he had a major influence in deciding the outcome of the Final. Given Bale's attitude to his home country as well, he has to be, possibly, the best Wales player ever and definitely above Giggs.

An overhead kick goal no less….incredible really.

[life on mars]

I agree, time was Giggs supporters could point to his medal collection as proof of being the better of the two, but I heard Nathan Blake reading out what Bale had won at Real Madrid and it no longer applies - he's won four Champions League winners medals and with at least of them, he had a major influence in deciding the outcome of the Final. Given Bale's attitude to his home country as well, he has to be, possibly, the best Wales player ever and definitely above Giggs.

Where does the great John Charles sit in all this debate

[the other bob wilson]

Where does the great John Charles sit in all this debate

As Bale's closest rival for the title of best ever Welsh player I'd say.

[BLUETIT]

Where does the great John Charles sit in all this debate

As Bale's closest rival for the title of best ever Welsh player I'd say.

Na, that's Trevor Hockey (who remembers him)

[life on mars]

Na, that's Trevor Hockey (who remembers him)

A man you'd not mess with was our Trevor