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Thread: FT: ENGLAND 0 - 0 SCOTLAND.

  1. #81

    Re: FT: ENGLAND 0 - 0 SCOTLAND.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    That might have been relevant in the past, but the current England squad undoubtedly contains some of the very best talent in the top flight regardless of their nationality.

    Your first post on the subject started: "Years ago to be picked for England it meant that you were the best player, or one of them, in your club side."

    I don't think the situation is any different now.
    It was relevant in the past, that’s why I started with the words ‘Years ago’. Yes, they’ve got some talented players but there aren’t many who are their club’s star turn. 7 out of 22 wasn’t an impressive total in the Chelsea/Man City final. I s’pose I’m posing the age old question, has the Premier League’s riches and ability to lure the world’s top talent been detrimental to the English National side? Has the pool of talent become shallower? Or, perhaps some would argue, it’s improved it, as the few who play regular for the top teams must be exceptional to live with such company. England are yet to show evidence of any continued improvement though, relatively easy passage to the World Cup semis apart, where a hard working Croatian side did for them.

  2. #82

    Re: FT: ENGLAND 0 - 0 SCOTLAND.

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    It was relevant in the past, that’s why I started with the words ‘Years ago’. Yes, they’ve got some talented players but there aren’t many who are their club’s star turn.
    A quarter of a century ago, the England team that beat Scotland 2-0 in Euro 96 was:

    Seaman, Neville, Adams, Southgate, Pearce, Ince, Anderton, McManaman, Gascoigne, Sheringham, Shearer.

    Would you say many of those were their clubs' star turns at the time?

  3. #83

    Re: FT: ENGLAND 0 - 0 SCOTLAND.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    A quarter of a century ago, the England team that beat Scotland 2-0 in Euro 96 was:

    Seaman, Neville, Adams, Southgate, Pearce, Ince, Anderton, McManaman, Gascoigne, Sheringham, Shearer.

    Would you say many of those were their clubs' star turns at the time?
    I said ‘years ago’, Euro ‘96 is the other week in my mind’s eye My years ago is the Tommy Lawton, Stan Matthews, Nat Lofthouse, Raich Carter, Duncan Edwards etc eras, names that I was brought up hearing about, not so much Matthews, actually saw him play at Ninian Park.

  4. #84

    Re: FT: ENGLAND 0 - 0 SCOTLAND.

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    I said ‘years ago’, Euro ‘96 is the other week in my mind’s eye. My years ago is the Tommy Lawton, Stan Matthews, Nat Lofthouse, Raich Carter, Duncan Edwards etc eras, names that I was brought up hearing about, not so much Matthews, actually saw him play at Ninian Park.
    They never had any success in big competitions either. 🙂

  5. #85

    Re: FT: ENGLAND 0 - 0 SCOTLAND.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    They never had any success in big competitions either. 🙂
    Bar for the eleven in 1966 that’s a given, although England were by far the best team in the world before 1950, they didn’t need a World Cup……all the papers said that apparently and the FA certainly were sure of it.

  6. #86

    Re: FT: ENGLAND 0 - 0 SCOTLAND.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    They never had any success in big competitions either. ��
    Bar for the eleven in 1966 that’s a given, although England were by far the best team in the world before 1950, they didn’t need a World Cup……all the papers said that apparently and the FA certainly were sure of it.

  7. #87

    Re: FT: ENGLAND 0 - 0 SCOTLAND.

    There you go, told you twice, must be true

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