John Bercow defects to Labour.

[the other bob wilson]

Can't see Conservative Central Office losing too much sleep over this really.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ack-on-johnson

[IanD]

Can't see Conservative Central Office losing too much sleep over this really.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ack-on-johnson

Unless he works his way up to become Labour leader.

[Elwood Blues]

Unless he works his way up to become Labour leader.

and pigs might fly

[Jordi Culé]

and pigs might fly

It’s interesting that a traditional Tory feels more comfortable with a party under Starmer than Johnson.

Shows how far both parties have moved to the ‘right’?

He’s not the only Conservative who has expressed their distrust of Johnson. Dominic Grieve give him pelters in the week about his dishonesty.

[Feedback]

It’s interesting that a traditional Tory feels more comfortable with a party under Starmer than Johnson.

Shows how far both parties have moved to the ‘right’?

He’s not the only Conservative who has expressed their distrust of Johnson. Dominic Grieve give him pelters in the week about his dishonesty.

just like Labour is a broad church, so is conservatism. Even traditionally, centrist Labour and centrist Tories weren't that far apart. It does amaze me that such people don't automatically align with the Lib Dems.

[Elwood Blues]

It’s interesting that a traditional Tory feels more comfortable with a party under Starmer than Johnson.

Shows how far both parties have moved to the ‘right’?

He’s not the only Conservative who has expressed their distrust of Johnson. Dominic Grieve give him pelters in the week about his dishonesty.

Dominic Grieve would be a credit to any party.

Bercow on the other hand.......

[Freitag 4.17]

and pigs might fly

John Bercow is very meme popular in a positive sense.. If we're doing populism now, which seems to be the case, he'd be a hit.

[WJ99mobile]

and pigs might fly

Better than half the crap they got in the party

[xsnaggle]

Bercow was never a 'traditional ' tory. Labour and conservatives normally take turn about for speaker but when he stood for the post the Conservative party didn't want him, and he was only elected because the labour MPs voted for him.
As soon as he became speaker he became and independent having to resign from his original party and as is tradition, whilst he was speaker no one stood against him in any election.
He actually became a labour MP a week or so ago. Let's see how he does in the next election he stands in.

[Elwood Blues]

Bercow was never a 'traditional ' tory. Labour and conservatives normally take turn about for speaker but when he stood for the post the Conservative party didn't want him, and he was only elected because the labour MPs voted for him.
As soon as he became speaker he became and independent having to resign from his original party and as is tradition, whilst he was speaker no one stood against him in any election.
He actually became a labour MP a week or so ago. Let's see how he does in the next election he stands in.

Bercow was a very right wing tory when he was younger.

He has made a long political journey.

He did a lot of good things as speaker but in the end I think the power went to his head.

I think Hoyle is a much better speaker

[I'll give you the Malky!!]

Bercow was never a 'traditional ' tory. Labour and conservatives normally take turn about for speaker but when he stood for the post the Conservative party didn't want him, and he was only elected because the labour MPs voted for him.
As soon as he became speaker he became and independent having to resign from his original party and as is tradition, whilst he was speaker no one stood against him in any election.
He actually became a labour MP a week or so ago. Let's see how he does in the next election he stands in.

"Never a traditional Tory" is a statement may who know his political past would disagree with I think.

[Pearcey3]

Bercow was never a 'traditional ' tory. Labour and conservatives normally take turn about for speaker but when he stood for the post the Conservative party didn't want him, and he was only elected because the labour MPs voted for him.
As soon as he became speaker he became and independent having to resign from his original party and as is tradition, whilst he was speaker no one stood against him in any election.
He actually became a labour MP a week or so ago. Let's see how he does in the next election he stands in.

He isn’t an MP yet. He’s just joined the Labour Party

[Allez Allez Allez]

He isn’t an MP yet. He’s just joined the Labour Party

He won't be standing for election either, he's merely just joined the party.

Also, when he was elected speaker, he got 322 votes (June 22nd 2009). He was unanimously elected speaker in 2017.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Bercow was never a 'traditional ' tory. Labour and conservatives normally take turn about for speaker but when he stood for the post the Conservative party didn't want him, and he was only elected because the labour MPs voted for him.
As soon as he became speaker he became and independent having to resign from his original party and as is tradition, whilst he was speaker no one stood against him in any election.
He actually became a labour MP a week or so ago. Let's see how he does in the next election he stands in.

So apart from the fact that Labour and Conservatives don't take turns at being speaker, the voting records on electing a Speaker are unproven, that his seat was regularly contested by other parties whilst he was Speaker and he is not a Labour MP I couldn't agree more!

[xsnaggle]

So apart from the fact that Labour and Conservatives don't take turns at being speaker, the voting records on electing a Speaker are unproven, that his seat was regularly contested by other parties whilst he was Speaker and he is not a Labour MP I couldn't agree more!

Traditionally no one stands against the speaker in elections.

From Wikipedia:
On the resignation of Michael Martin in June 2009, Bercow stood successfully in the election to replace him as Speaker. As Speaker, he was obliged to leave the Conservative Party and remain as an independent for the duration of his tenure. He was re-elected unopposed at the commencements of the Parliaments in 2010, 2015 and 2017.[5] This made him the first Speaker since the Second World War to have been elected four times, as well as the first since then to have served alongside four Prime Ministers.[6][7] In September 2019, Bercow declared that he would stand down as Commons Speaker and MP on 31 October; he remained Speaker until being appointed to the Manor of Northstead on 4 November 2019.[8] Having served 10 years as Speaker, Bercow became the longest-serving Speaker since Edward FitzRoy."

From the Parliament website:
Speakers and general elections

Speakers still stand in general elections. They are generally unopposed by the major political parties, who will not field a candidate in the Speaker's constituency. During a general election, Speakers do not campaign on any political issues but simply stand as 'the Speaker seeking re-election'.

Will that do?

[cyril evans awaydays]

Traditionally no one stands against the speaker in elections.

From Wikipedia:
On the resignation of Michael Martin in June 2009, Bercow stood successfully in the election to replace him as Speaker. As Speaker, he was obliged to leave the Conservative Party and remain as an independent for the duration of his tenure. He was re-elected unopposed at the commencements of the Parliaments in 2010, 2015 and 2017.[5] This made him the first Speaker since the Second World War to have been elected four times, as well as the first since then to have served alongside four Prime Ministers.[6][7] In September 2019, Bercow declared that he would stand down as Commons Speaker and MP on 31 October; he remained Speaker until being appointed to the Manor of Northstead on 4 November 2019.[8] Having served 10 years as Speaker, Bercow became the longest-serving Speaker since Edward FitzRoy."

From the Parliament website:
Speakers and general elections

Speakers still stand in general elections. They are generally unopposed by the major political parties, who will not field a candidate in the Speaker's constituency. During a general election, Speakers do not campaign on any political issues but simply stand as 'the Speaker seeking re-election'.

Will that do?

There was I trying really hard not to take your posts seriously by having a little joke and yet you've gone all earnest on me. You couldn't colour code them so if someone wishes to respond they can strike the right tone could you?

[xsnaggle]

There was I trying really hard not to take your posts seriously by having a little joke and yet you've gone all earnest on me. You couldn't colour code them so if someone wishes to respond they can strike the right tone could you?

That's a plan. I never thought of that. What coloured do you think? Red for serious, blue for humour (alleged humour and black for normal? Or would you suggest something else.
But I'm not having beige or au de nil or any of that. That's right out.

[dml1954]

All this proves is that Bercow was, after all, always trying to deliberately block Brexit and the will of the people (as was Dominic Grieve). The words two faced and hypocritical come to mind. Labour are welcome to him.

[Allez Allez Allez]

If only there was a forum for this politics stuff.

[ninian opinian]

The Tories defected to UKIP a long time ago so don’t blame him.

[Whisperer]

If I was Labour i wouldn't have let him join and fecked him off just like Wimbledon tennis club did which he is still seething over.
He's a pompous little twat and comes across like the host of the good ole day's self righteous to the core.

[Hilts]

Well done Bercow.

Obviously couldnt stomach the bufoon and co. any longer.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I wish everyone would defect to the democratic alliance party or something

Labour has had it and if it formed a new party in England with the flower power lot , the liberals and moderate tories there might be a chance of giving it to the conservatives right up the back passage

As it stands this country is a one party state

Of public school boys

[dml1954]

I wish everyone would defect to the democratic alliance party or something

Labour has had it and if it formed a new party in England with the flower power lot , the liberals and moderate tories there might be a chance of giving it to the conservatives right up the back passage

As it stands this country is a one party state

Of public school boys

Voted for by a wide cross section of society, including millions of working class people.

[Hilts]

Voted for by a wide cross section of society, including millions of working class people.

Yep some people appear to be happy and see success as they have more food banks.

Starmer needs to wise up as people voting for the worst PM and front bench in history is staggering.

At least Wales saw sense.