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    The John Hartson School Of Commentary

    Main Commentator to John Harston

    Well John , what did you think of that !

    John Hartson

    That was a goal



    Thanks John

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    His summing up at the end of the game was a delight. He rambled on for a minute, got tongue tied, forgot what he had said before and just went quiet leaving the main commentator to finish off 😄😄😄

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    His summing up at the end of the game was a delight. He rambled on for a minute, got tongue tied, forgot what he had said before and just went quiet leaving the main commentator to finish off 😄😄😄
    Bit like Boris Johnson but not quite as bad.😀

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    He said early on that if Wales didn’t concede then Switzerland would have to win by 5 to overtake us. He isn’t the brightest is he.

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    Hartson, earnshaws, ledely, robson-kanu I know people say footballers aren't the brightest but don't couldn't have picked many worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazadona10 View Post
    Hartson, earnshaws, ledely, robson-kanu I know people say footballers aren't the brightest but don't couldn't have picked many worse.
    Earnie was fine.

    Hughes (even when a miserable git) and Taylor are OK. Savage and Ashley Williams are very good. Bellers was always good. Coleman is good.

    Unfortunately Hartson is usually poor. Ledley and Robson-Kanu are uncomfortable and wooden - and add almost nothing as pundits. So ITV had three duds out of four, made worse by Mark Pougatch who must be the dullest of BBC/ITV/Sky main presenters.

    Still, who cares. Wales second in group and all is well with the world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Earnie was fine.

    Hughes (even when a miserable git) and Taylor are OK. Savage and Ashley Williams are very good. Bellers was always good. Coleman is good.

    Unfortunately Hartson is usually poor. Ledley and Robson-Kanu are uncomfortable and wooden - and add almost nothing as pundits. So ITV had three duds out of four, made worse by Mark Pougatch who must be the dullest of BBC/ITV/Sky main presenters.

    Still, who cares. Wales second in group and all is well with the world!
    ITV don't particularly care about football any more. Since they lost live Champions' League rights, they no longer have a team of good commentators to rely on.

    Back in the day, a trio of Tyldesley, Drury and Champion was very good indeed, certainly compared to Matterface, Speight and Hutchinson. When they lost the Champions' League coverage, only Tyldesley was kept on as a contracted commentator. He lost his position last year and ITV now no longer have any contracted football presenters (as far as I am aware). Pougatch is freelance. Matterface (as their main commentator) is freelance. My understanding, from what I've read elsewhere, is that they're the main presenter and commentator for ITV as they were happy to do it for the price. ITV have a bit of a history of poaching presenters and commentators from elsewhere (usually the Beeb) and paying them handsomely. That is no longer the case.

    It's sad as ITV's football coverage for many years has generally been very good, if not excellent. Names like Hugh Johns, Brian Moore, Alan Parry etc. Most of ITV's other sporting output borrows from other freelance commentators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazadona10 View Post
    Hartson, earnshaws, ledely, robson-kanu I know people say footballers aren't the brightest but don't couldn't have picked many worse.
    I thought Hal spoke quite well, sadly the rest were poor.

    Harston was terrible.

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    Commentator: “The Italian fans booing Bale there, do you think that’s a mark of respect John?”
    Hartson: “Well, you never hear fans booing bad players do you?”

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    He was terrible, he said early on he liked the false number 9 tactic. After Italy scored he said Wales shouldn’t play that way as it doesn’t work - great analysis!

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    It's clearly not something that comes natural to him.

    Him and savage would make a great early 2000's sky fan zone pairing.

    Was a bit like the guy down the pub, never a red ref, all he has done is stamp down on his ankle.

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    Lets be fair. Hartson’s lucky to still be with us after his cancer scare, so as far as i’m concerned, he can say what he wants.
    There aren’t many decent commentators out there any way. At least you can have a chuckle at some of his ramblings 😁😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Lets be fair. Hartson’s lucky to still be with us after his cancer scare, so as far as i’m concerned, he can say what he wants.
    There aren’t many decent commentators out there any way. At least you can have a chuckle at some of his ramblings 
    Yeah, I tend to agree with you. He deserves a free pass for what he has been through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    Yeah, I tend to agree with you. He deserves a free pass for what he has been through.
    He deserves to be treated in exactly the same way as any other football commentator, in relation to his performance and ability in that respect. I am sure he would not want it any other way. It is rather patronising to suggest he should be given special treatment because he has been ill in the past. As a footballer he obviously had ability and as a man he has done well to recover from his health setbacks but as a football commentator, in my opinion, he is useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    He deserves to be treated in exactly the same way as any other football commentator, in relation to his performance and ability in that respect. I am sure he would not want it any other way. It is rather patronising to suggest he should be given special treatment because he has been ill in the past. As a footballer he obviously had ability and as a man he has done well to recover from his health setbacks but as a football commentator, in my opinion, he is useless.
    Harsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    Harsh.
    Harsh but fair. Last year my mate was blinded by some white sh!te and regardless of the hardship he's been through - I still think Cardiff Busses were soft letting him carry on driving the Ely route - even if his guide dog is on his lap. Judge on ability not sympathy.

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    Definitely better on the radio (or should I say less worse?) where summarisers speak less.
    He tries to be articulate but just keeps repeating the same stuff about pride, passion teamwork, commitment etc without actually offering any insight into the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Lets be fair. Hartson’s lucky to still be with us after his cancer scare, so as far as i’m concerned, he can say what he wants.
    There aren’t many decent commentators out there any way. At least you can have a chuckle at some of his ramblings 😁😁
    I am very glad he defeated cancer but he's a shite pundit

    Maybe we should just get some bloke from down the pub who has got no legs

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I am very glad he defeated cancer but he's a shite pundit

    Maybe we should just get some bloke from down the pub who has got no legs
    Do you really need someone to tell you how the games going? Most of them spout nonsense anyway. Some geezer from a boozer with no legs would do for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Do you really need someone to tell you how the games going? Most of them spout nonsense anyway. Some geezer from a boozer with no legs would do for me.

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    John Hartson once acted as a babysitter for my son for about half an hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    John Hartson once acted as a babysitter for my son for about half an hour.
    Did he lose him on 35 mins?

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    Lovely Welsh lad , had dreadful health issues and conquered them .

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    So we get Savage on co-commentary for the BBC games and Hartson for the ITV games. What did we do to deserve this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    So we get Savage on co-commentary for the BBC games and Hartson for the ITV games. What did we do to deserve this?
    Who should we have

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