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  1. #1

    Re: No new roads

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Yesterday, my daughter-in-law was driving back from Bristol, a journey she does 3/4 times a week. It took her 90 minutes to get from the bridge [where the queues had begun], all the way into Cardiff, to pick up the little fella from our house.

    This, on the very day [ 21/6/202] the Welsh Assembly has removed the M4 relief Road from the planning register, thus making it almost impossible for the UK Govt. to impose the project upon them for years to come.
    What is your opinion about the traffic issue in Bristol ?

    Because rush hour there is absolutely dreadful

    South East Wales has similar problems

    Until we get people out of their cars very little is going to change

    You don't seriously think Boris and his mob were going to sort out the M4 relief road do you ?

    It was pre assembly election bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    What is your opinion about the traffic issue in Bristol ?

    Because rush hour there is absolutely dreadful

    South East Wales has similar problems

    Until we get people out of their cars very little is going to change

    You don't seriously think Boris and his mob were going to sort out the M4 relief road do you ?

    It was pre assembly election bullshit
    have you ever tried to drive through Bath as well, total nightmare.

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    Re: No new roads

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    What is your opinion about the traffic issue in Bristol ?

    Because rush hour there is absolutely dreadful

    South East Wales has similar problems

    Until we get people out of their cars very little is going to change

    You don't seriously think Boris and his mob were going to sort out the M4 relief road do you ?

    It was pre assembly election bullshit
    For years I'd struggle getting across Bristol to meetings - it just doesn't have the road network that Cardiff had, but in recent years I noticed Cardiff's traffic was getting worse and worse, and I'd say from what infrequent visits to Brizzle I nowadays make, Cardiff's traffic congestion is now much worse.

  4. #4

    Re: No new roads

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    For years I'd struggle getting across Bristol to meetings - it just doesn't have the road network that Cardiff had, but in recent years I noticed Cardiff's traffic was getting worse and worse, and I'd say from what infrequent visits to Brizzle I nowadays make, Cardiff's traffic congestion is now much worse.

    I wonder if it got anything to do with the main road through the City and serving the south, has been shut down

  5. #5

    Re: No new roads

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    What is your opinion about the traffic issue in Bristol ?

    Because rush hour there is absolutely dreadful

    South East Wales has similar problems

    Until we get people out of their cars very little is going to change

    You don't seriously think Boris and his mob were going to sort out the M4 relief road do you ?

    It was pre assembly election bullshit
    It is absolutely abysmal in Bristol. It takes me a good 45 minutes to get out of the city whenever I am there.

    Hopefully, as companies start to treat workers as adults and get them working from home as much as possible, it will have the effect that roads can be less congested for those who prefer life like it was 1976. And no to more roads. More roads are not the solution. Better public transport is.

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    Re: No new roads

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Teetotal, pub hating, cycle loving Duckford got 5 more years as well (he won’t resign, as he said he would)
    you daft old tory sod , you sound very bitter

    I am glad he won but he can move on ASAP as far as I am concerned

  7. #7

    Re: No new roads

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    you daft old tory sod , you sound very bitter

    I am glad he won but he can move on ASAP as far as I am concerned

    Daft, yes, old yes, bitter not really, the man is a dinosaur and should be put out to pasture

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    the man is a dinosaur and should be put out to pasture
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  9. #9

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    talking of cars Birmingham has just adopted a clean air zone around the city basically meaning if your car doesn't meet the euro 6 emission standard you will have to pay a charge for non compliant cars

    https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/e...-need-to-know/

    think this will be hitting the likes of Cardiff and Bristol in the not so distant future

    it will work effectively in Brum as it got good rail and bus transport links in and around the city although heavily congested but I don't think Cardiff or Bristol have the same infrastructure if they plan on taking us off the roads and onto public transport

    just look at East Cardiff not 1 rail station in operation yet !

  10. #10

    Re: No new roads

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    talking of cars Birmingham has just adopted a clean air zone around the city basically meaning if your car doesn't meet the euro 6 emission standard you will have to pay a charge for non compliant cars

    https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/e...-need-to-know/

    think this will be hitting the likes of Cardiff and Bristol in the not so distant future

    it will work effectively in Brum as it got good rail and bus transport links in and around the city although heavily congested but I don't think Cardiff or Bristol have the same infrastructure if they plan on taking us off the roads and onto public transport

    just look at East Cardiff not 1 rail station in operation yet !
    Think Clean Air Zone's will be the future of charging motorists. From the council's perspective they should've followed Nottingham's lead and introduced a Workplace Parking Levy, they paid for their tram system with theirs, increased public transport usage and reduced emissions. With covid being in our lives and the almost certain change to peoples working habits and office usage, a WPL wouldn't work as well anymore I imagine.

    Many of the schemes the council are trying to implement are the right idea, just being pushed about by one too many bluetits.

  11. #11

    Re: No new roads

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    talking of cars Birmingham has just adopted a clean air zone around the city basically meaning if your car doesn't meet the euro 6 emission standard you will have to pay a charge for non compliant cars

    https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/e...-need-to-know/

    think this will be hitting the likes of Cardiff and Bristol in the not so distant future

    it will work effectively in Brum as it got good rail and bus transport links in and around the city although heavily congested but I don't think Cardiff or Bristol have the same infrastructure if they plan on taking us off the roads and onto public transport

    just look at East Cardiff not 1 rail station in operation yet !
    That's been Cardiff's problem all along. They should have started the metro years ago and introduced the stations on the eastern side. Now they're left with the equivalent of tapping their head and rubbing their tummy trying to catch up

  12. #12

    Re: No new roads

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    The Welsh Government has now stopped all new road building.
    The seem determined to turn Wales into a country park or something. We'll all be riding round on Bullock carts soon, and all the irritating English tourists will be taxed out of the country so there will be no revenue from them either. Then Drakeford will be happy.
    Both the main routes for business and to attract investment in the North and South, both cancelled.

    It's insane
    You can only wonder how many million have been blown on doing virtually nothing on north rd through Whitchurch…..got an extra bus lane for all the no people getting on buses have we? Meanwhile old schools in cardiff are falling down

  13. #13

    Re: No new roads

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Daft, yes, old yes, bitter not really, the man is a dinosaur and should be put out to pasture
    Do you think he's the one making all of the decisions?

  14. #14

    Re: No new roads

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Do you think he's the one making all of the decisions?
    Yes !!!!

    Behind the scenes, the man is a tyrant. His troops fear him.

    He’s not a nice man to get the wrong side of

  15. #15

    Re: No new roads

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Yes !!!!

    Behind the scenes, the man is a tyrant. His troops fear him.

    He’s not a nice man to get the wrong side of
    Do nice blokes make good leaders? I don’t mix with him so his demeanour doesn’t affect me but his decisions do and, on the whole, they’re ok, I’m above ground and breathing after a 16 month or so pandemic. Most leaders have to have a ruthless, nasty streak I’d imagine, Johnson certainly has but I reckon he’s more for himself than Mark is. I’m glad we’ve got Mark rather than the buffoon Johnson.

  16. #16

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    In my experiences dealing with Mark Drakeford he's certainly not come across as a tyrant. May not have been that many times, but I'm pretty sure you're talking absolute bollocks Bluetit

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    Re: No new roads

    Quote Originally Posted by FungoFurore View Post
    In my experiences dealing with Mark Drakeford he's certainly not come across as a tyrant. May not have been that many times, but I'm pretty sure you're talking absolute bollocks Bluetit
    I know 3 people who have either worked for or close to him, and they would agree with blue tit 100%. The words used describing him were dictatorial uninterested in opinions stubborn and the like. Needless to say none of them work near him any more.

  18. #18

    Re: No new roads

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Do you think he's the one making all of the decisions?
    He absolutely does. Fair play to Drakeford if he is, he must be working 120 hour weeks.

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    Re: No new roads

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Do you think he's the one making all of the decisions?
    Definitely!! total dictator.

  20. #20

    Re: No new roads

    This is a farcical decision, and is typical of the Welsh Government. They hate motorists.
    Apart from anything else, the figures clearly state that transport provides 17% of carbon emissions. SO WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 83%? What are they planning to do about that? After 2030, the law will prevent you buying a petrol or diesel car, so in theory, emissions will reduce, albeit gradually. In the meantime, they could replace all busses with electric (easy to charge them overnight at the terminus) and insist all taxis go electric by 2030.

    But apart from all that, let's not beat around the bush here - Wales is already a backwater, and this will just make it worse. The biggest reason for a lack of investment is the state of the M4, and everyone knows it. When the UK Government threatened to build it, the WAG should have jumped at the chance. But no, they're all short-sighted nitwits, and would rather that we all suffer than be seen to take anything from a Tory government. They're pathetic.

  21. #21

    Re: No new roads

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    I’m a bus man, since I got my pensioners pass

    Waiting for a bus on Sunday afternoon, not one cyclist was using the cycle lanes. Not one bike to be seen
    No
    They are too busy clogging up the roads
    Really irritating when they dawdle along having a nice chat while there's a traffic jam behind them

  22. #22

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    I’m a bus man, since I got my pensioners pass

    Waiting for a bus on Sunday afternoon, not one cyclist was using the cycle lanes. Not one bike to be seen
    Guess there's not too many cars around at that time either.

    Anyway, here's another £330k well spent

    BBC News - Planned Cardiff £330,000 bus lane trims 40 seconds off travel time
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57571881

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    Re: No new roads

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    Guess there's not too many cars around at that time either.

    Anyway, here's another £330k well spent

    BBC News - Planned Cardiff £330,000 bus lane trims 40 seconds off travel time
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57571881
    Its introduction only vital when it suits them. It's vital that they improve the public transport system massively before they deny cars access to the city completely, but that doesn't suit their agenda.

  24. #24

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    Welsh Gov trying to do 100 years worth of work in 10, all the road/train networks put in place were by Westminster and were provided no funding once they had made their money from the industrial industries, that's why Wales has piss weak infrastructure and transport options in every corner of the country. I hope the Metro really works out so Welsh money came be re-invested in Welsh infrastructure because it sure as hell won't come from Westminster, whoever is in charge.

  25. #25

    Re: No new roads

    So when does my petrol driven Ford c max become illegal ?

    Its only done 50 k , I want another 100 out of it 😫

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