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    Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Twice in the last couple of weeks I have realised that two different insurance policies (car and rivercraft) auto-renewed and payments were taken from my bank account. I had no idea that such an arrangement was included in the small print when I took out the policies a year ago and although I have received full refunds, it's easier not to notice such things happening unless you closely examine your outgoings.
    Just be warned, old fruits.

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    You must have missed a renewal notice (or reminder) of some sort as they can't legally enter into an arrangement with you that lasts longer than a year. They are OK if they have simply reminded you that your contract is coming up for renewal and they will renew it unless you tell them otherwise.

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpersforGoalposts View Post
    You must have missed a renewal notice (or reminder) of some sort as they can't legally enter into an arrangement with you that lasts longer than a year. They are OK if they have simply reminded you that your contract is coming up for renewal and they will renew it unless you tell them otherwise.
    Their defence was that I received an offer that I didn't respond to and that the renewal kicked in as a result. For my part, I did not accept the offer and therefore considered that no contract was entered into. The money was taken from my account in the first instance whatever.

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Their defence was that I received an offer that I didn't respond to and that the renewal kicked in as a result. For my part, I did not accept the offer and therefore considered that no contract was entered into. The money was taken from my account in the first instance whatever.
    This is absolutely common practice in the insurance industry, it works like this for any type of annual insurance policy I can think of - the contractual position will be absolutely nailed down. And I don’t think it’s sharp practice either- I’m always reminded in multiple occasions that it’s renewal time and to be honest I’m grateful that it does. The chance of me not having time to sort out a new policy is not insignificant so at least this way I know that I’m still insured, even if it might not be on the best deal.

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpersforGoalposts View Post
    You must have missed a renewal notice (or reminder) of some sort as they can't legally enter into an arrangement with you that lasts longer than a year. They are OK if they have simply reminded you that your contract is coming up for renewal and they will renew it unless you tell them otherwise.
    My wife's car insurance automatically renewed a couple of months ago. She was able to cancel and get a refund.

    Perhaps it's something some insurance companies are now doing, adding an automatic renewal to the contract.

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    My wife's car insurance automatically renewed a couple of months ago. She was able to cancel and get a refund.

    Perhaps it's something some insurance companies are now doing, adding an automatic renewal to the contract.
    The insurer has to do one of two things as a default, either cancel your insurance at the renewal date, or renew it (usually on different terms). What they cannot do is simply let the existing contract continue past one year.
    If you've missed a renewal notice and taken cover elsewhere then you should have no problem getting a refund.

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpersforGoalposts View Post
    The insurer has to do one of two things as a default, either cancel your insurance at the renewal date, or renew it (usually on different terms). What they cannot do is simply let the existing contract continue past one year.
    Or they can include an automatic renewal, which isn't the same as letting the existing contract continue, when the old contract runs out. It might be in tiny small print that nobody reads. There's nothing preventing insurers doing such a thing.

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpersforGoalposts View Post
    You must have missed a renewal notice (or reminder) of some sort as they can't legally enter into an arrangement with you that lasts longer than a year. They are OK if they have simply reminded you that your contract is coming up for renewal and they will renew it unless you tell them otherwise.
    they can its called auto-renewal and its there in black and white or email at the start of contract you just have to take care when agreeing at firstmainly used when paying in full

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by poc View Post
    they can its called auto-renewal and its there in black and white or email at the start of contract you just have to take care when agreeing at firstmainly used when paying in full
    It is a renewal that they have to advise you the terms of and give you the opportunity to cancel - it is only an "auto renewal" in the sense that their default if you don't cancel is to renew the policy.
    They can't let the existing policy just continue to run as it would breach their insurance licence.

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpersforGoalposts View Post
    It is a renewal that they have to advise you the terms of and give you the opportunity to cancel - it is only an "auto renewal" in the sense that their default if you don't cancel is to renew the policy.
    They can't let the existing policy just continue to run as it would breach their insurance licence.
    Useful to know. Thanks.

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    I insured my car with the same company last year , everybody was telling me to shop around and I found out mine , aviva , was the cheapest

    So for the next few years I am sticking with them , I havnt got the time to arse about on comparison websites

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I insured my car with the same company last year , everybody was telling me to shop around and I found out mine , aviva , was the cheapest

    So for the next few years I am sticking with them , I havnt got the time to arse about on comparison websites
    The companies love people like you and tend to overcharge you on renewal as a result. For the best prices look for quotes 3 weeks before your current policies expire.

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Twice in the last couple of weeks I have realised that two different insurance policies (car and rivercraft) auto-renewed and payments were taken from my bank account. I had no idea that such an arrangement was included in the small print when I took out the policies a year ago and although I have received full refunds, it's easier not to notice such things happening unless you closely examine your outgoings.
    Just be warned, old fruits.
    They usually send you the new quote 2 weeks before renewal and if you don't contact them to stop it they will auto renew.
    You are lucky to get a full refund as they will say you didn't do it before the renewal date

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Good post TBG - I got done by an insurance company taking a full years £ policy when I had switched to a cheaper vendor and had not noticed

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Pontprennau Blues View Post
    Good post TBG - I got done by an insurance company taking a full years £ policy when I had switched to a cheaper vendor and had not noticed
    I'm like a mutha to you lot

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I'm like a mutha to you lot
    Mother - oor I get it

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Pontprennau Blues View Post
    Sorry to ask TBG is a mutha like a fanny
    That's too philosophical a question to respond to while I am watch the Tour de France highlights...

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quick question regarding car insurance. I've just had a price from my current insurer which I'm going to take. It says it will auto renew on said date. Question is, I have a new bank card as the expiry date ran out on the other one a couple of months ago. Will they still be able to take payment (I pay it in full every year) or will I have to give them the details of my new card?

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by valleys caveman View Post
    Quick question regarding car insurance. I've just had a price from my current insurer which I'm going to take. It says it will auto renew on said date. Question is, I have a new bank card as the expiry date ran out on the other one a couple of months ago. Will they still be able to take payment (I pay it in full every year) or will I have to give them the details of my new card?
    No quite sure why you think an expired card will work but there you go. They will try and take it on the renewal date, it will fail due to the card expiry and they will presumably contact you but in the meantime, the policy could expire and you will be uninsured. You must therefore contact them before the renewal date, assuming you want to continue the policy.

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by valleys caveman View Post
    Quick question regarding car insurance. I've just had a price from my current insurer which I'm going to take. It says it will auto renew on said date. Question is, I have a new bank card as the expiry date ran out on the other one a couple of months ago. Will they still be able to take payment (I pay it in full every year) or will I have to give them the details of my new card?
    If it's direct debit then no need to do anything as its the same account as your old card.

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    The best thing to do is put these auto renew dates in your diary and 2/3 weeks before the auto renewal kicks in ring them up to cancel.
    Miraculously they always have a "special offer or managers special on today" and ask you to hold on for a moment and they come back to you trumping any low price offer you've had elswhere.
    Just did it yesterday on my home insurance and got 35% knocked off the auto' renewal price. They just rely on the unorganised to make their extra profits. Don't let emm' boys and girls!

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by lincoln blue View Post
    The best thing to do is put these auto renew dates in your diary and 2/3 weeks before the auto renewal kicks in ring them up to cancel.
    Miraculously they always have a "special offer or managers special on today" and ask you to hold on for a moment and they come back to you trumping any low price offer you've had elswhere.
    Just did it yesterday on my home insurance and got 35% knocked off the auto' renewal price. They just rely on the unorganised to make their extra profits. Don't let emm' boys and girls!
    What's a diary?

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    What's a diary?
    An early form of Filofax.

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    What's a diary?
    Paper diaries were quite good in the day mind but I'm talking smart diaries here.

    Pop a reminder in one and all manner of devices will remind you and save you loadsamoney when the time is right.

    I've saved well over £200 already this year by getting a little more organised last year. I don't have more money than sense any more!

    EE can expect a call from me quite soon for the one of the managers (keep him at all costs) "today only specials"

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    Re: Auto-renewals in respect of insurances

    Quote Originally Posted by willo1927 View Post
    If it's direct debit then no need to do anything as its the same account as your old card.
    That reply is a bit misleading. The card he used to pay has expired but is on auto renew. They will therefore try to use the same card. No mention of direct debits in the post.

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