UPDATED- EFL Clubs under transfer embargoes - City not included anymore

[jon1959]

I'm pretty certain it's due to Sala, which won't be paid until a court rules

If it is Sala, what has changed since the January window when we paid transfer fees and the dispute was waiting resolution at the CAS - as now?

[RonnieBird]

Two links quoted here.
One in April which says it’s an accounting disparity arising from Covid regulations, and that it won’t actually effect Ccfc. The other up to date link doesn’t mention ccfc in the list.

Hard to imagine that the club would be silent , so are we getting the wrong end of the stick ?

[light up the darkness]

Members of CCMB getting the wrong end of the stick!

How very dare you!

[Rjk]

Two links quoted here.
One in April which says it’s an accounting disparity arising from Covid regulations, and that it won’t actually effect Ccfc. The other up to date link doesn’t mention ccfc in the list.

Hard to imagine that the club would be silent , so are we getting the wrong end of the stick ?

https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/embargoes/

from the efl website

[LeningradCowboy]

Could possibly be Keiffer Moore, but it's hard to think of anyone else it could be besides those two.

The reported transfer fee for Moore was less than £2m.

[LeningradCowboy]

I imagine it will be relating to fees for Moore, or Sala. I doubt we'd be an embargo for any fees in the last few weeks.

Glatzel?

[Nobody's Rep]

Time for the club to issue a statement.

I tend not bash the club at every opportunity as I have no idea how a football club is run but they keep saying it is minor technicalities surely if they are minor they can avoid them - I can't imagine it is healthy being on the EFL radar let alone trying to attract new players as and when any ban is lifted?

[life on mars]

We got enough goodies in the squad with slim line Tomlin back ,keep hold of Moore, Collins looks a decent forward back up .

The younger lads like Colwill ,Harris ,Bagan etc etc .

Bring on those promising youngsters I say .

[RonnieBird]

https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/embargoes/

from the efl website

Yes but when was this published ?
Has it been superseded?
It’s really not clear.

[Rjk]

We got enough goodies in the squad with slim line Tomlin back ,keep hold of Moore, Collins looks a decent forward back up .

The younger lads like Colwill ,Harris ,Bagan etc etc .

Bring on those promising youngsters I say .

counterpoint:
We weren't good enough last season and our squad is objectively worse now.

[Rjk]

Yes but when was this published ?
Has it been superseded?
It’s really not clear.

the page clearly states they've only started publishing them since June 2021 , so it is definitely recent.

[the other bob wilson]

The reported transfer fee for Moore was less than £2m.

It’d be very naive to assume Championship clubs would be in the habit of paying. Seven and eight figure transfer fees off in one go. Look at how we accepted Arsenal’s smaller but paid up front fee for Ramsey - that was clearly an unusual type of offer.

[life on mars]

counterpoint:
We weren't good enough last season and our squad is objectively worse now.

Polite Counterpoint 2 :
Tomlin fitter
Moore full season behind him
Crowds back
Colwill ,Harris ,Bagan further developed
MM first close season preparation

[LeningradCowboy]

It’d be very naive to assume Championship clubs would be in the habit of paying. Seven and eight figure transfer fees off in one go. Look at how we accepted Arsenal’s smaller but paid up front fee for Ramsey - that was clearly an unusual type of offer.

I agree, so if we're defaulting on the Moore transfer fee then it's probably a payment of less than £1m, which seems unlikely, unless we're completely skint.

[dml1954]

Two links quoted here.
One in April which says it’s an accounting disparity arising from Covid regulations, and that it won’t actually effect Ccfc. The other up to date link doesn’t mention ccfc in the list.

Hard to imagine that the club would be silent , so are we getting the wrong end of the stick ?

The accounting situation was resolved in May/June when up to date accounts were submitted and we were removed from the previous embargo list. This is obviously a separate transfer issue but it is odd that City were not mentioned as being on the list in the BBC News report a few days ago and then mysteriously appeared yesterday. Indicates that if it is correct that the club were probably not aware it was going to happen. No doubt a statement will follow soon. I think it is naive that the club should be expected to notify the fans of everything that is happening ‘behind the scenes’.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Agreed, a lot of people were critical of that survey from a few months ago which placed City as among the worst of the ninety two when it came to things like customer care and keeping fans abreast of developments at the club. The rating did seem harsh, but things like this and the lack of access regarding season ticket renewal for supporters (especially those without access to a computer) makes you think they may have had a point.

The club needs to say something, and WalesOnline haven't posted anything either. It's really odd and you'd think a good story for WOL!

[Pedro de la Rosa]

I agree, so if we're defaulting on the Moore transfer fee then it's probably a payment of less than £1m, which seems unlikely, unless we're completely skint.

Not good news, and it has nothing to do with FFP. Club needs to come out and say something but if it isn't to do with Sala, it means Tan isn't continuing to sort the club and we are a) skint, and b) ****ed.

[LeningradCowboy]

The club needs to say something, and WalesOnline haven't posted anything either. It's really odd and you'd think a good story for WOL!

Someone should ask Paul Abbandonato what is going on.

[life on mars]

Should we not offer Bennet a contract quickly decent lad

[the other bob wilson]

The accounting situation was resolved in May/June when up to date accounts were submitted and we were removed from the previous embargo list. This is obviously a separate transfer issue but it is odd that City were not mentioned as being on the list in the BBC News report a few days ago and then mysteriously appeared yesterday. Indicates that if it is correct that the club were probably not aware it was going to happen. No doubt a statement will follow soon. I think it is naive that the club should be expected to notify the fans of everything that is happening ‘behind the scenes’.

Yeah, what's the odd transfer embargo between friends eh?

[The Hooded Claw]

If this is related to the Sala transfer, then surely the answer would be for the disputed monies to be lodged with a third party (eg the EFL), so that even if the fee considered due hasn't been received by Nantes, then at least it's not that the club hasn't paid it.

Not once has the club said that not would not be able to afford the fee, only that they dispute the validity of the claim from Nantes.

This way, the club would be in compliance with the payment side and if then found not to have to pay it, would simply receive the money back.

Cardiff would also be seen to be doing the right thing, whilst their risk would be very small and the transfer embargo should be able to be lifted.

[Rjk]

If this is related to the Sala transfer, then surely the answer would be for the disputed monies to be lodged with a third party (eg the EFL), so that even if the fee considered due hasn't been received by Nantes, then at least it's not that the club hasn't paid it.

Not once has the club said that not would not be able to afford the fee, only that they dispute the validity of the claim from Nantes.

This way, the club would be in compliance with the payment side and if then found not to have to pay it, would simply receive the money back.

Cardiff would also be seen to be doing the right thing, whilst their risk would be very small and the transfer embargo should be able to be lifted.

if we have it

[Rjk]

Should we not offer Bennet a contract quickly decent lad

not if he can't play until january

[dml1954]

if we have it

I believe that it was included in the club accounts two years ago. Plus the instruction not to pay has undoubtedly come from the clubs legal advisers and insurers. If City lose the case, it is the insurers who will probably have to pay up.

[The Lone Gunman]

Not once has the club said that not would not be able to afford the fee, only that they dispute the validity of the claim from Nantes.

In January 2020, Mehmet Dalman was quoted in the press as saying: "A club of our size does not have vast resources. It is obvious we cannot hand over £15million without heading toward bankruptcy."