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    Taking The Knee To Continue ?

    I can't see black players and those who support them stopping this following the racism towards those young English lads

    Whether you agree with it or not , I think its here for some time yet

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    Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I can't see black players and those who support them stopping this following the racism towards those young English lads

    Whether you agree with it or not , I think its here for some time yet
    I hope it does continue. Sadly, the uncaring/unthinking loudmouths will win on this I'm afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    I hope it does continue. Sadly, the uncaring/unthinking loudmouths will win on this I'm afraid.
    I think the idiots booing are going to make themselves look like right racists . Which of course is what they are .

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I think the idiots booing are going to make themselves look like right racists . Which of course is what they are .
    Not all are not racists Sludgey, some of those that boo are against an out and out Marxist organisation! It's pathetic that multi-millionaire footballers take the knee to Marxists, when they would be among the first mutha****as up against the wall, if these dreadful people took over the country. A lot oppose BLM, as this organisation want to defund the police and our armed services and think that all white people are essentially bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68 View Post
    Not all are not racists Sludgey, some of those that boo are against an out and out Marxist organisation! It's pathetic that multi-millionaire footballers take the knee to Marxists, when they would be among the first mutha****as up against the wall, if these dreadful people took over the country. A lot oppose BLM, as this organisation want to defund the police and our armed services and think that all white people are essentially bad
    Did you come to the conclusion that it's a Marxist organisation yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Did you come to the conclusion that it's a Marxist organisation yourself?
    There's enough information on there on the web and YouTube! Do your own homework

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68 View Post
    There's enough information on there on the web and YouTube! Do your own homework
    You're parroting it, aren't you?

    If not, why do you think the footballers are supporting a Marxist organisation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Did you come to the conclusion that it's a Marxist organisation yourself?
    Absolutely not. I read a lot and watch a lot of different videos on YouTube from extreme right wing and also left wing (and not from some chavvie keyboard warrior stuck in his mums house hiding behind a laptop), and then form my own options. No one is more left wing than I am, but as for Marxism, Uggg, it is a form of oppression. Oh, and before you accuse me of being fascist, my best mate for over 40 years is black, and whose parents came over on the Windrush. He knows exactly how I feel about an out an out Marxist organisation and footballers taking the knee and basically bowing down to it.

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    Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68 View Post
    Absolutely not. I read a lot and watch a lot of different videos on YouTube from extreme right wing and also left wing (and not from some chavvie keyboard warrior stuck in his mums house hiding behind a laptop), and then form my own options. No one is more left wing than I am, but as for Marxism, Uggg, it is a form of oppression. Oh, and before you accuse me of being fascist, my best mate for over 40 years is black, and whose parents came over on the Windrush. He knows exactly how I feel about an out an out Marxist organisation and footballers taking the knee and basically bowing down to it.
    You do know Marxism is just a school of thought, not a political party, economic system or form of governance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68 View Post
    Absolutely not. I read a lot and watch a lot of different videos on YouTube from extreme right wing and also left wing (and not from some chavvie keyboard warrior stuck in his mums house hiding behind a laptop), and then form my own options. No one is more left wing than I am, but as for Marxism, Uggg, it is a form of oppression. Oh, and before you accuse me of being fascist, my best mate for over 40 years is black, and whose parents came over on the Windrush. He knows exactly how I feel about an out an out Marxist organisation and footballers taking the knee and basically bowing down to it.
    Do you know anything about Marxism? Marxism is about class, not race. "Marxism" has become a right-wing buzzword used by people that have no ****ing idea who Marx was or what his philosophy is. Be honest with yourself, did you even know Karl Marx was German?

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    Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68 View Post
    Absolutely not. I read a lot and watch a lot of different videos on YouTube from extreme right wing and also left wing (and not from some chavvie keyboard warrior stuck in his mums house hiding behind a laptop), and then form my own options. No one is more left wing than I am, but as for Marxism, Uggg, it is a form of oppression. Oh, and before you accuse me of being fascist, my best mate for over 40 years is black, and whose parents came over on the Windrush. He knows exactly how I feel about an out an out Marxist organisation and footballers taking the knee and basically bowing down to it.
    Of course, you came to your own opinion after watching extreme right wing YouTube videos. It just so happened to be the same opinion. OK

    I guess either hundreds of footballers have been simultaneously hoodwinked by the Marxists because "they're not very bright" or there is a problem with the way black players are treated and they're using a simple gesture to draw attention to it.

    We may never know the truth...

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    Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68 View Post
    Not all are not racists Sludgey, some of those that boo are against an out and out Marxist organisation! It's pathetic that multi-millionaire footballers take the knee to Marxists, when they would be among the first mutha****as up against the wall, if these dreadful people took over the country. A lot oppose BLM, as this organisation want to defund the police and our armed services and think that all white people are essentially bad
    Course they are.

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    Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?

    Yeah, we can see why it is needed, especially after recently

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    I think that it has to after the terrible reaction to the 3 poor lads that manned up for their country.

    I don’t know much about Sancho....but Sako and Rashford come across as pure gents and to have to take this vile abuse while already feeling down is an absolute disgrace.

    It’s so sad!

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    Bloody nonsense .
    No ones booing it because they support racism. They just oppose BLM which wants to defund the police and armed services and thinks all white people are intrinsically bad ( which IS racism).
    I appreciate that these people are probably too thick to understand that , but personally I don’t want to pay to watch them publicising ANY political beliefs. They can do that in their own time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Bloody nonsense .
    No ones booing it because they support racism. They just oppose BLM which wants to defund the police and armed services and thinks all white people are intrinsically bad ( which IS racism).
    I appreciate that these people are probably too thick to understand that , but personally I don’t want to pay to watch them publicising ANY political beliefs. They can do that in their own time.
    You know theres a difference between BLM the organisation and Black Lives Matter the message, right?

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    Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Bloody nonsense .
    No ones booing it because they support racism. They just oppose BLM which wants to defund the police and armed services and thinks all white people are intrinsically bad ( which IS racism).
    I appreciate that these people are probably too thick to understand that , but personally I don’t want to pay to watch them publicising ANY political beliefs. They can do that in their own time.
    This sort of 'thick' and ignorant response is why it needs to continue.

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    Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Bloody nonsense .
    No ones booing it because they support racism. They just oppose BLM which wants to defund the police and armed services and thinks all white people are intrinsically bad ( which IS racism).
    I appreciate that these people are probably too thick to understand that , but personally I don’t want to pay to watch them publicising ANY political beliefs. They can do that in their own time.
    Ronnie, this is a direct copy and paste from BLM's description of itself:

    "#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, Inc. is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives."

    I'm genuinely interested in where your views come from. They don't seem to reflect what the official BLM description of itself is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    Ronnie, this is a direct copy and paste from BLM's description of itself:

    "#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, Inc. is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives."

    I'm genuinely interested in where your views come from. They don't seem to reflect what the official BLM description of itself is.

    It’s a most complicated matter and a most complicated subject AZ.
    Too complicated to address properly here of course, but it’s origins go back a very long way into both American politics and various arms of Marxism. Suffice it to say that I’m quite satisfied that it’s a deeply sinister organisation.
    How it describes itself and indeed how it describes its own history and formation is one thing and no doubt most of those who have been convinced by this are perfectly well intentioned people of good conscience but the truth of the matter is something else altogether in my opinion.

    It’s hardly a new thing for deeply unpleasant groups to misrepresent themselves as a force for good and in my opinion,( which of course anyone is quite free to accept or reject), that’s exactly what Blm does.

    I won’t bother defending myself against those who attribute this opinion to racism- that’s a standard unintelligent accusation against anyone who questions certain unsupportable dogmas. Fact is though that these people are far from the good guys they’d have you think they are.

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    Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    It’s a most complicated matter and a most complicated subject AZ.
    Too complicated to address properly here of course, but it’s origins go back a very long way into both American politics and various arms of Marxism. Suffice it to say that I’m quite satisfied that it’s a deeply sinister organisation.
    How it describes itself and indeed how it describes its own history and formation is one thing and no doubt most of those who have been convinced by this are perfectly well intentioned people of good conscience but the truth of the matter is something else altogether in my opinion.

    It’s hardly a new thing for deeply unpleasant groups to misrepresent themselves as a force for good and in my opinion,( which of course anyone is quite free to accept or reject), that’s exactly what Blm does.

    I won’t bother defending myself against those who attribute this opinion to racism- that’s a standard unintelligent accusation against anyone who questions certain unsupportable dogmas. Fact is though that these people are far from the good guys they’d have you think they are.
    But where do you get your opinion of BLM from? What are your sources?

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    Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    It’s a most complicated matter and a most complicated subject AZ.
    Too complicated to address properly here of course, but it’s origins go back a very long way into both American politics and various arms of Marxism. Suffice it to say that I’m quite satisfied that it’s a deeply sinister organisation.
    How it describes itself and indeed how it describes its own history and formation is one thing and no doubt most of those who have been convinced by this are perfectly well intentioned people of good conscience but the truth of the matter is something else altogether in my opinion.

    It’s hardly a new thing for deeply unpleasant groups to misrepresent themselves as a force for good and in my opinion,( which of course anyone is quite free to accept or reject), that’s exactly what Blm does.

    I won’t bother defending myself against those who attribute this opinion to racism- that’s a standard unintelligent accusation against anyone who questions certain unsupportable dogmas. Fact is though that these people are far from the good guys they’d have you think they are.
    It's not a fact, it's your opinion.

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    Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Bloody nonsense .
    No ones booing it because they support racism. They just oppose BLM which wants to defund the police and armed services and thinks all white people are intrinsically bad ( which IS racism).
    I appreciate that these people are probably too thick to understand that , but personally I don’t want to pay to watch them publicising ANY political beliefs. They can do that in their own time.
    You and your kind are exactly the reason it has to continue, the booing has given racists a ‘cover’ to vent their true feelings. Shame on you, no place for your sort at Cardiff City.

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    Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Bloody nonsense .
    No ones booing it because they support racism. They just oppose BLM which wants to defund the police and armed services and thinks all white people are intrinsically bad ( which IS racism).
    In fairness, I've seen you post some fecking nonsense on here which you actually believe, but this, even by your irrelevant standards, shows you up for who you are.

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    After the events of the last 24 hours I think there will be many who will support its continuation that probably thought differently about it yesterday!

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    Re: Taking The Knee To Continue ?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Bloody nonsense .
    No ones booing it because they support racism. They just oppose BLM which wants to defund the police and armed services and thinks all white people are intrinsically bad ( which IS racism).
    I appreciate that these people are probably too thick to understand that , but personally I don’t want to pay to watch them publicising ANY political beliefs. They can do that in their own time.
    The Tories have already de funded the police and the armed forces, so no need to worry.

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