Taking The Knee To Continue ?

[neilw65]

This is worth a listen/watch

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1414890418240729089

[az city]

The problem with 'taking the knee' is that (1) it has been going on for too long

Maybe taking the knee should go on as long as the slave trade (400 years).

[NYCBlue]

Maybe taking the knee should go on as long as the slave trade (400 years).

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

The problem with 'taking the knee' is that (1) it has been going on for too long, and (2) it only seems to be applied to football. Why don't all sports do it? I don't recall any rugby players doing it, and I certainly didn't see any tennis players at Wimbledon either. Nor golf, or motor racing, darts, snooker, or any other sport you can mention. Why only football? Do they think all fans are all low-life racists who need educating?
Like the public in general, the vast majority of football fans are not racist, and they are starting to resent being told that they are, every time a game kicks off. That's why people boo - not because they're racist, but because they're tired of being labelled as such.

It has happened in other sports

Lewis Hamilton does it as well

A lot of the people who boo are nailed on racists and the problem of racism in society and in football in particular has never gone away

Some racists change through education but some retain their moronic views and you only have to go on football websites to see how prevalent it is

I am not talking about people having a reasonable discussion as we are here , I am talking appalling levels of racist attitudes

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

This is worth a listen/watch

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1414890418240729089

Hes nailed it

[Dorcus]

The problem with 'taking the knee' is that (1) it has been going on for too long, and (2) it only seems to be applied to football. Why don't all sports do it? I don't recall any rugby players doing it, and I certainly didn't see any tennis players at Wimbledon either. Nor golf, or motor racing, darts, snooker, or any other sport you can mention. Why only football? Do they think all fans are all low-life racists who need educating?
Like the public in general, the vast majority of football fans are not racist, and they are starting to resent being told that they are, every time a game kicks off. That's why people boo - not because they're racist, but because they're tired of being labelled as such.

How long is too long? Why shouldn't it last forever? Would we say the same about public service announcements decrying drink driving? Would we say they have gone on too long for example? They have slowly burned onto the collective consciousness the shame of drink driving, just like the Taking the Knee gesture is attempting to achieve the same with regard to racism.

[Dorcus]

This is worth a listen/watch

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1414890418240729089

Absolutely brilliant! There's no hiding place from those comments. Perfectly summed up.

[Feedback]

What a load of bollocks this thread is. We don't live in a football stadium, so taking the knee means nothing outside the world of football. People need to wake up and realise disagreeing with taking the knee is not being racist, it means (or certainly can mean) that its meaning has been eroded through continuous use.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

What a load of bollocks this thread is. We don't live in a football stadium, so taking the knee means nothing outside the world of football. People need to wake up and realise disagreeing with taking the knee is not being racist, it means (or certainly can mean) that its meaning has been eroded through continuous use.

There are valid reasons for disagreeing with an anti-racism message?

[splott parker]

What a load of bollocks this thread is. We don't live in a football stadium, so taking the knee means nothing outside the world of football. People need to wake up and realise disagreeing with taking the knee is not being racist, it means (or certainly can mean) that its meaning has been eroded through continuous use.

It’s working because this peaceful protest is keeping the scourge of racism in the spotlight, it certainly hasn’t been eroded, if anything these last few days it’s gained considerable strength. The booers are using it as cover to display their true feelings I believe, we're wise to it, it’s they who need to be eroded.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

What a load of bollocks this thread is. We don't live in a football stadium, so taking the knee means nothing outside the world of football. People need to wake up and realise disagreeing with taking the knee is not being racist, it means (or certainly can mean) that its meaning has been eroded through continuous use.

I beg to differ , everybody I encounter knows about taking the knee , mostvagree , some dont and some get foam mouthed

Plenty of people disagreeing with the knee are nailed on racists , they know it , they hate being called racists but only because they know that we know what they think

Feck em

[neilw65]

I beg to differ , everybody I encounter knows about taking the knee , mostvagree , some dont and some get foam mouthed

Plenty of people disagreeing with the knee are nailed on racists , they know it , they hate being called racists but only because they know that we know what they think

Feck em

Well said Sludge

[Baloo]

What a load of bollocks this thread is. We don't live in a football stadium, so taking the knee means nothing outside the world of football. People need to wake up and realise disagreeing with taking the knee is not being racist, it means (or certainly can mean) that its meaning has been eroded through continuous use.

Doesn’t seem much of a reason to boo it mind.

[G rangetown Blue]

Have you read about Colin Kaepernick?

This neo Marxist nonsense just makes racists feel a bit better.

[Mr Soul '68]

Have you read about Colin Kaepernick?

This neo Marxist nonsense just makes racists feel a bit better.

Yes, isn't Colin Kaepernick, a quarterback who knelt at the start of NFL games in protest of police brutality and racial inequality in the US?

[dembethewarrior]

That's clever and funny. I may pinch that if I may.

You carry on 👍

[dembethewarrior]

Have you read about Colin Kaepernick?

This neo Marxist nonsense just makes racists feel a bit better.

As with most things, people will put their own spin on it to help it fit their pov/agenda.
It doesn't suit some people that people agree with the movement so they just go straight out and attack it, put a bad spin on it etc. Newspapers/social media etc are flooded with one side of the argument until enough people who don't think for themselves just nod and agree.

I've no idea if any of that makes sense, usually doesn't when I come on here drunk, I babble when I'm sober so this is probably just a pile of nonsense I'll read back and wonder why I typed..

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

An interesting take on it from a Tory MP:
https://www.politicshome.com/thehous...aking-the-knee

[lardy]

An interesting take on it from a Tory MP:
https://www.politicshome.com/thehous...aking-the-knee

"But I once played in a rugby team in the Army composed of fourteen Fijians and me."

I wonder why they made him play on the opposition

[adz-a32]

Absolutely not. I read a lot and watch a lot of different videos on YouTube from extreme right wing and also left wing (and not from some chavvie keyboard warrior stuck in his mums house hiding behind a laptop), and then form my own options. No one is more left wing than I am, but as for Marxism, Uggg, it is a form of oppression. Oh, and before you accuse me of being fascist, my best mate for over 40 years is black, and whose parents came over on the Windrush. He knows exactly how I feel about an out an out Marxist organisation and footballers taking the knee and basically bowing down to it.

Such a cliché You do know Marx had some Eurocentric ideas?

[Baloo]

It's a bit of a challenge to believe those booing Taking The Knee are expressing their principled misgivings with Marxism given every single foreign anthem was also booed by some England fans, regardless of the social, economic or political philosophy associated with each nation.

[Feedback]

There are valid reasons for disagreeing with an anti-racism message?

It's a personal choice whether you wish to take a knee. It shouldn't be for Ed upon you because then it's contrived. No inference should be made if you do or don't kneel. Likewise idiots booing those that do need shutting up.

[Feedback]

Doesn’t seem much of a reason to boo it mind.

agreed, that I don't understand

[Feedback]

It’s working because this peaceful protest is keeping the scourge of racism in the spotlight, it certainly hasn’t been eroded, if anything these last few days it’s gained considerable strength. The booers are using it as cover to display their true feelings I believe, we're wise to it, it’s they who need to be eroded.

I dont disagree. My comment was about the inference that if you don't support taking the knee, you must be racist. That's nonsense.

[Feedback]

Maybe taking the knee should go on as long as the slave trade (400 years).

The slave trade has been going on before the pyramids were built.