Immigration and The NHS

[LeningradCowboy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57929185

Unions representing nurses in Wales say strike action is being considered in response to a 3% pay rise offer.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57929185



Unions representing nurses in Wales say strike action is being considered in response to a 3% pay rise offer.

I saw that on the news, if the country and I mean the UK can afford a nuclear deterrent when its so obviously a waste of time during this time of crisis then it can afford to pay the nurses

[lisvaneblue]

They know to have offered anything less wo

uld have been explosive

Although some people think they should be grateful of having a job and stop complaining

Which is ironic considering they possibly saved the lives of these people or their loved ones

That's how tories think

Vermin

Much of the correspondence on this subject seems to assume that this is the one pay rise people will get this year. In addition to the proposed 3% many working in the NHS get additional annual increments as they gain more experience and move through the job grades.

[Nobody's Rep]

Much of the correspondence on this subject seems to assume that this is the one pay rise people will get this year. In addition to the proposed 3% many working in the NHS get additional annual increments as they gain more experience and move through the job grades.

Not all nurses have increments if they are at the top of their grade and you don't move through the grades unless you take on more responsibility or move disciplines - the increments are there to try and improve retention and the grades are there to recognise differences in roles and difference in expertise

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Much of the correspondence on this subject seems to assume that this is the one pay rise people will get this year. In addition to the proposed 3% many working in the NHS get additional annual increments as they gain more experience and move through the job grades.

That also happens in other occupations

I am amazed after so many lives have been saved by these people some still stick a monetarist value on the health profession.

Let's clap the nurses but complain if they hold out for a pay rise

Its fecking absurd

[lisvaneblue]

Not all nurses have increments if they are at the top of their grade and you don't move through the grades unless you take on more responsibility or move disciplines - the increments are there to try and improve retention and the grades are there to recognise differences in roles and difference in expertise

I wasn't specifically talking about nurses. The NHS pay bands are published and can be viewed on the web, and you will see that annual increments are usually based on gaining experience, and as people gain experience of course they are likely to take on more responsibility.
That is the norm in most jobs whether NHS or not.
A nurse with less than 2 years experience is probably on band5..earns around £25K a year. An experience sister could be double that an d in London maybe £60k.
Doctors are on a different set of 'clinical' pay rates.
And please don't get me wrong, Im not saying the pay is good or bad, whether 3% is fair or not, I'm just stating facts..ie many get additional annual increments as they gain experience.

[dembethewarrior]

All the stories about nurses being totally fed up with the working conditions they face and the stress and the crap pay they get and them leaving the profession in droves must be made up then . Fairytale stuff .

If you think the NHS staff DONT struggle you seriously are a fecking twat

Did I say any of what you just said I did? I didn't.

I said I know a few who don't moan about their pay. The papers may do for them, but they don't.

You've always been the same on here, scream and shout the loudest and repeat yourself a 100 times in a thread. A bore basically.

We all know your stance, don't remind us 15 times on 46 threads.

[Tuerto]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57929185

Unions representing nurses in Wales say strike action is being considered in response to a 3% pay rise offer.

Good, absolute joke of an offer.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Did I say any of what you just said I did? I didn't.

I said I know a few who don't moan about their pay. The papers may do for them, but they don't.

You've always been the same on here, scream and shout the loudest and repeat yourself a 100 times in a thread. A bore basically.

We all know your stance, don't remind us 15 times on 46 threads.

So you know a few

And of those few you know , none of them complain

OK then , if you expect me to think you are telling the truth then I am afraid that's not going to happen

You are making things up as you go along

[William Treseder]

Whilst there is no denying the the brilliant part immigrants have played in the NHS, thousands of Brits have returned the favour by moving to poorer countries to do voluntary work, help with education, construction, health, poverty etc.

[dembethewarrior]

So you know a few

And of those few you know , none of them complain

OK then , if you expect me to think you are telling the truth then I am afraid that's not going to happen

You are making things up as you go along

Repeating your same view again. No need. We know.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Whilst there is no denying the the brilliant part immigrants have played in the NHS, thousands of Brits have returned the favour by moving to poorer countries to do voluntary work, help with education, construction, health, poverty etc.

Not very many in comparison to be fair

Sure some very kind , caring and intelligent doctors , nurses , teachers etc but it's a drop in the ocean compared to the huge input of immigrants to health , construction , food processing , logistics in this country

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Repeating your same view again. No need. We know.

No I am stating your view , which is complete horse dung

You stated previously you like coming here on a wind up before vanishing

Now you are back , on the same mission

So I know what your game is and no doubt you will throw a strop and vanish for another 6 months

You are like an annoying fly which I think is exactly what you enjoy being . Each to their own . I am off to look at some porn . 😍

[dembethewarrior]

No I am stating your view , which is complete horse dung

You stated previously you like coming here on a wind up before vanishing

Now you are back , on the same mission

So I know what your game is and no doubt you will throw a strop and vanish for another 6 months

You are like an annoying fly which I think is exactly what you enjoy being . Each to their own . I am off to look at some porn . 😍

Apart from a bit of a laugh with BLUETIT when have I wound anyone up since deciding on coming back?

Just off the top of my head there's my mates daughter who is a midwife, loves it ever moans about the pay and my cousins wife who also doesn't live off handouts bacause her pay coupled with his affords them 3 well looked after kids and a lovely house.

I can imagine you sat there now, eyes closed hard, hands over your ears, feet stamping screaming "I'm not listening lalala" like a petulant child, because this doesn't fit your little narrative. Life isn't all what you read in the papers sludge.

That'll be all. You're boring tbh, same old tune on here for about 30 years ya ****ing bore.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Apart from a bit of a laugh with BLUETIT when have I wound anyone up since deciding on coming back?

Just off the top of my head there's my mates daughter who is a midwife, loves it ever moans about the pay and my cousins wife who also doesn't live off handouts bacause her pay coupled with his affords them 3 well looked after kids and a lovely house.

I can imagine you sat there now, eyes closed hard, hands over your ears, feet stamping screaming "I'm not listening lalala" like a petulant child, because this doesn't fit your little narrative. Life isn't all what you read in the papers sludge.

That'll be all. You're boring tbh, same old tune on here for about 30 years ya ****ing bore.

12 year old kid

Petulant is about right ✅

If you were an honourable sort why do you keep vanishing ?

You remind me of that bloke who presents the one show 🤔

[dembethewarrior]

12 year old kid

Petulant is about right ✅

If you were an honourable sort why do you keep vanishing ?

You remind me of that bloke who presents the one show 🤔

Because ccmb isn't the be all and end all of the world

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Because ccmb isn't the be all and end all of the world

Can you naff off for a few months again ?

GCSEs soon

Need to get your head down

[dembethewarrior]

Can you naff off for a few months again ?

GCSEs soon

Need to get your head down

#bekind