What about 2019/2020, assume you don't think that was a ‘genuine’ chance which is ridiculous but presumably fits your argument. Plus, people keep banging on about Warnock wasting money. We lost money for Madine but got promotion with him in the squad, Reid was sold for roughly what we paid for him, Murphy, Smithies, Vaulks and a number of others are still Cardiff players, so we haven't lost anything on them. Some others we lost money on but we also sold Zohore for a £8m profit. What club hasn't lost money on players, including Liverpool, ManUtd etc etc. We also came within 3 points of staying in the Premier League in 2019 as well. All totally ignored of course in the general rush to criticise players, managers and ex managers at Cardiff City.