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  1. #41

    Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    Beyond burger is not a burger, its a vegetable patty. See how many they would sell if they called it that. Amazing how vegetarians and vegans spend half their time trying to recreate food that looks and tastes like meat. Whats that all about. Meat eaters should prepare food, that looks and tastes vegan/vegetarian, out of meat - that would soon become popular and avoid the need for vegans to look down their noses when they see people eating meat.
    Why are you under the impression it's only vegans/veggies who eat meat replacements? Red meat doesn't agree with me so I eat Quorn mince and the occasional Quorn burger (or should I say 'patty' to avoid giving you an aneurysm). I still eat chicken and fish though.

    I see far more meat eaters get their pants twisted over vegans than I do preachy vegans, just live to accept people have their choices grandad

  2. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    Methinks someone is being facetious.
    The point is that every stage in the food chain is less efficient than the next.
    A single plant provides very little energy.
    Plant-eaters need to eat a LOT of plants, and much of the plant cannot be broken down easily - hence cows having multiple stomachs and farting a lot, rabbits creating rabbit pellets, etc,
    Eating meat is MUCH more efficient.
    Where does the meat get its protein?

  3. #43

    Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    Beyond burger is not a burger, its a vegetable patty. See how many they would sell if they called it that. Amazing how vegetarians and vegans spend half their time trying to recreate food that looks and tastes like meat. Whats that all about. Meat eaters should prepare food, that looks and tastes vegan/vegetarian, out of meat - that would soon become popular and avoid the need for vegans to look down their noses when they see people eating meat.
    Ive been Veggie since '93, back then Veggie options were shocking, they really were, asking in a restaurant for anything Veggie was sometimes sneered at, of course its changed beyond my wildest dreams

    Not sure Ive ever preached in all them years, Ive had plenty of discussions about it, " are you a hippy ", " You dont look pasty enough to be a Veggie ", " our teeth are designed to rip apart meat " , " it'll mean you have bandy legs " , " your bones will go soft " , ive heard it all, some of it is laughable

    as for the Burger / patty argument, its just a shape, in the USA, the word is pretty interchangeable, spongebob square pants calls em patties

  4. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    There's this thing called "the food chain".

    We all get energy from the sun.
    Plants convert solar energy by photo synthesis.

    plant eaters piggyback this process.
    Meat-eaters piggybackack the plant-eaters method and so on.
    The plant eaters are easy prey because thy haven't eaten enough protein for their brains to develop enough to evade the predators..

    QED
    That is incredible .

    QED ?

    Why because you believe its true ?

  5. #45

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    I'm all for finding something to be passionate about but jeez, if people want to eat something that looks like a burger, tastes like a burger, has the name "burger" but doesn't contain meat, who cares?

  6. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
    That is incredible .

    QED ?

    Why because you believe its true ?
    image.jpg

  7. #47

    Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    The human being is an omnivorous animal, developed as "hunter-gatherers"
    A veggie once srgued that our closest relation, the chimpanzee, is vegetarian, This is bollocks.
    I refer you to Attenborough's Life on Earth series (or maybe The trials of Life, long time since watching)
    Where a troupe of chimps chased and ambushed colobus monkeys, tearing them apart and eating them on the spot.
    Going back to the "developed" bit, another veggie told me that early homonids' btains wouldn't have had enough protein to develop into that of homo sapiens if they had remained vegetarian.
    Who are you talking to? The op was just saying that something he ate tasted good. Nobody is talking about whether a vegan diet is natural. He didn't even suggest he was on a vegan diet. He just said he liked his burger.

    It is entirely possible to enjoy food from all sections of the supermarket.

  8. #48

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I'm happy to accept that vegetarian sausages / burgers are nice. find it a lot more difficult to grapple with the concept that Richmond make any kind of decent sausage, let alone a vegetarian one.

    Mind you, some of their "meat" sausages contain only 42% actual meat (the bare minimum you have to to still call it a pork sausage), so perhaps they've got a bit of a head start on other sausage manufacturers in fonding other stuff to cram in there.


    I agree- never liked Richmond sausages. And to be honest their vegan ones taste just like their pork ones so while it is an impressive copy, I probably won't go back for them. I've got some vegan cumberlands to try next.

    I am getting really keen on some of these replacements. I've had the vegan kebab meat a few times now although as it is loaded with crappy soy protein and cheap oils, I doubt its any healthier than the standard doner kebab!

  9. #49

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    I had a real burger at JG Melon on the Upper East Side this morning. Sublime. Anyone who visits NYC should go there.

  10. #50

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    I had a real burger at JG Melon on the Upper East Side this morning. Sublime. Anyone who visits NYC should go there.
    What meal was this?! With the exception of the very occasional steak and eggs (and maybe some bresaola) I've never had beef for breakfast.

  11. #51

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    I'm all for finding something to be passionate about but jeez, if people want to eat something that looks like a burger, tastes like a burger, has the name "burger" but doesn't contain meat, who cares?
    This.

  12. #52

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick View Post
    What meal was this?! With the exception of the very occasional steak and eggs (and maybe some bresaola) I've never had beef for breakfast.
    It was an early lunch. About 11:45am.

  13. #53

    Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick View Post
    What meal was this?! With the exception of the very occasional steak and eggs (and maybe some bresaola) I've never had beef for breakfast.
    I like a chilli cheese omelette for breakfast. And corned beef hash. But I could eat anything. I often eat leftover dinner for breakfast.

  14. #54

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    Why do people get so wound up about what others choose to eat? All seems very snowflakish to me.

    I'll never be a vegetarian, but I'm at a stage now where I prefer the vegetarian/vegan option for things like sausages and mince for when I'm making chilli, lasagne and cottage pies to the "real thing". I've not had a burger in years, but I'm looking forward to trying those Beyond Meat ones - presumably you can get them in places like Tescos?

  15. #55

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    Iíd love to attack do gooders regarding veganism etc but itís actually good for your health so I canít really.
    Soy is VERY bad for you though.

  16. #56

    Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    In my opinion, burgers traditionally do and should, contain meat. However, one of the reasons meat free versions are also called burgers is because it makes them easier to sell. I would have thought that any self respecting vegan or vegetarian wouldn't go anywhere near something called a burger or something that was created to look like a meat burger but they do. I don't understand why someone of this persuasion would want to make their food look like it contains meat (or even eggs in the vegan breakfasts) but they do. I think I know why beyond call it a burger - its a clever marketing ploy to sell more because some people would think it was a real beef burger, if they just went by the name and wouldn't buy it otherwise. I have great respect and absolutely no problem with people that are vegan or vegetarian (my daughter and son in law are both) but just donít get this Ďcrusadeí to make the different types of food look and taste the same. Unless of course it is because some (not all) vegan and vegetarian dishes look and taste so unappetising. At least that's what my luddite meat eating palate tells me.
    Surely being vegan or vegetarian is about making a choice not to eat actual meat products, not about avoiding things that taste of meat. By the same token, why don't we just have potato flavoured crisps?

  17. #57

    Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Why do people get so wound up about what others choose to eat? All seems very snowflakish to me.

    I'll never be a vegetarian, but I'm at a stage now where I prefer the vegetarian/vegan option for things like sausages and mince for when I'm making chilli, lasagne and cottage pies to the "real thing". I've not had a burger in years, but I'm looking forward to trying those Beyond Meat ones - presumably you can get them in places like Tescos?
    St Mellons garden centre today and Bel Vue Newport this evening.

    Have one made for you by the Magikmushroom Vegan van .

    I will even do you a bit of discount Paul.

  18. #58

    Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    I'm all for finding something to be passionate about but jeez, if people want to eat something that looks like a burger, tastes like a burger, has the name "burger" but doesn't contain meat, who cares?
    I visited a Mercedes group on facebook .

    On there they slag off BMW owners . I am at a loss , how can you have an affinity to a car?

  19. #59

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
    I visited a Mercedes group on facebook .

    On there they slag off BMW owners . I am at a loss , how can you have an affinity to a car?
    Everyone slags off BMW owners, don't they? Apart from BMW owners.

  20. #60

    Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
    I visited a Mercedes group on facebook .

    On there they slag off BMW owners . I am at a loss , how can you have an affinity to a car?
    The f****g nerve of this after some of the stuff you said about my Peugot 206

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