Yeah what is the possible lie in that?Originally Posted by lardy
Are you about to argue that he wasn't on holiday?
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Yeah what is the possible lie in that?Are you about to argue that he wasn't on holiday?
He is a **** of a man though, there’s plenty of evidence of that. Are you a big fan of Dominic Rabb or something? Or are you only defending him because you vote for his party?
This never happened. It's Labour party lies!
Mr Raab :
"We are, and I hadn't quite understood the full extent of this, but if you look at the UK and if you look at how we trade in goods, we are particularly reliant on the Dover-Calais crossing.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46142188
Thought he was actually quite good as Brexit secretary but hasn't come out of this well.
When it's people's lives at stake he should have known the severity.
What did he do well as brexit secretary?
This is a man who once said
“The typical user of a foodbank is not someone that’s languishing in poverty, it’s someone who has a cash flow problem episodically.”
He published a book that claimed
"The British are among the worst idlers in the world. We work among the lowest hours, we retire early and our productivity is poor."
He wrote another book that called for hospitals to be privatised, then claimed that he hadn't.
And whilst Brexit secretary he said
"I hadn't quite understood the full extent of this, but if you look at the UK and if you look at how we trade in goods, we are particularly reliant on the Dover-Calais crossing."
Hes entitled to a holiday
I never thought I’d see the day someone would be madly defending Dominic rabb ffs. Look at the things he’s said before, look at his voting record, look at the fact he was on holiday while British citizens were stuck in Afghanistan. Then ask yourself why you are blindly defending someone who wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire.
He’s a pure useless ****.
The UK (most notably his and the defence department) are literally evacuating thousands of Afghan and British citizens as we speak.
Thats what fkn matters. Not some dubious tweets from opposition MPs and tabloid newspapers.
If you are more bothered by those stories than the fact that we are literally evacuating people as we speak, then thats your business i guess, but I think it's pretty weird and scratch beneath the surface and there's party political games at play
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-s...han-nationals/
It isn’t knee jerk he’s been a **** for years and there’s plenty of evidence of it.
a typical user of a food bank is not someone who’s languishing in poverty, it’s someone who has a cash flow problem
You can be bothered by more than one thing. The foreign secretary being a self centred useless prick is something worth being worried about.
You’re the one making it about party politics. Rabb’s CV is made up of him being useless (NI border, Dover to Calais exports, being on holiday during this) and a **** (food bank, NHS, being on holiday during this).
No it's not. The OP said Raab was a 'typical Tory' or words to that effect..
Also, this BBC article is basically:
Labour moaning
Lib Dems moaning
SNP moaning
Plaid moaning
Daily Mail moaning
Thats why I suspect it's party-political motives at play here
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58265160
All the while the UK (incl Raabs department) are evacuating thousands of people from Kabul airport.
I know which story I think is more interesting and important.
Let’s be honest though that is a typical Tory, especially these days.
Funny that you say opposition parties holding the government to account for being incompetent is moaning but maybe you’re just biased?
I’m sorry that might hurt your sensitive little feelings but if you vote for the tories that’s what you get.
You are just proving my point, which is that many of those criticising;
1 / Don't care about people being airlifted from Kabul airport.
2 / Do care about sectarian party political jibes.
There’s a lot of propaganda to unpack here, so I’ll keep it simple.
U.K. literally in Kabul saving lives - what has that got to do with the foreign secretary being absent and not doing his job?
More people in work than ever - if you look at zero hour contracts etc maybe, but let’s wait until furlough ends and see if that holds up.
Immigration is rising - our net immigration is about the same as it’s always been. Which is miniscule in terms of our overall population and adds a net positive to our country when you see we have an ageing population with decreasing birth rates.
1- He clearly is doing his job isnt he, as these things dont happen without co-ordination from the top. Thats my point.
2 - Zero Hour contracts represent a small number of posts, and suit some people and dont suit others.
3 - Immigration since the 2000's is way higher than it used to be. The link i posted showed that. I dont disagree at all on the benefits, although I do agree in managed migration and not a laissez-faire solution.
You're talking a lot about the evacuation happening now - but the criticism is about Raab being on holiday and not getting involved while the Taliban were still outside Kabul, and the defences were on the verge of collapse.
Maybe people care about both and are using it to bash one of the most corrupt and useless governments we’ve had in a long time.
Maybe they do care about both. They don't seem to talk about it mind. Feel free to talk about the evacuation of vulnerable people from Kabul airport as opposed to speculation about Raabs holiday if you like.
To be fair you were happy to share your take on Raab's holiday prior to declaring the story unimportant and uninteresting.
Yeah exaclty.
Raab was asked to make one phonecall from his sun lounger and he refused and it sums him up.
I still can't believe anyone would defen him and the only reason I can grasp that someone would do it is they're such a biased tory supporter they'd never criticise anything to do with the party. The main thing wrong with party politics imo, people are so biased they'll over look anything to support the party and will vote for them regardless of all the corruption and cuntiness on display.
Or maybe:
1 - What you say happened, in fact didnt
2 - Whoever made the call wouldnt have made any difference
3 - People think its a side show to more important matters (like the ongoing airlift evacuations)
I've voted for all major parties and will gladly criticise the Tories, but just not on this trumped up charge of holiday speculation when far more important matters are taking place.
Start a thread on the evacuation of vulnerable people from Kabul airport. This thread is about Raab.
Same topic given he's foreign secretary
If the actual important thing is what's going on in Kabul, why was this your first post?
What's more important boots on the ground or boots on your tongue?
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