If we’re going to play hoofball

[dml1954]

Crikey….how long have you been watching us?

Easy - he hasnt.

[dembethewarrior]

Every team goes into the game to win, that's a fact. If winning isn't the ultimate aim then I don't know what is

Teams play to win. Fans watch to be entertained, that's how I read it.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

I disagree but football is most certainly about differing opinions.

No, it's not......

[Hilts]

Teams play to win. Fans watch to be entertained, that's how I read it.

Win fans are generally happy. Lose the opposite.

[Forgotmyoldaccount]

Some people are never happy whatever we do

Come on.. that first half was worse to watch than paint drying.

[Random in Duquesa]

I'm confused by the word "if " in the OP

[Random in Duquesa]

Come on.. that first half was worse to watch than paint drying.

my mate i sit next is a painter so well qualified and he agrees

[dembethewarrior]

Win fans are generally happy. Lose the opposite.

We can win lose or draw playing both ways. As someone else pointed out, the football we play becomes easier to play against the higher up we go...

Also, with the money seemingly mot as free to throw about on player signings like it used to be don't you think we need to keep the kids coming through the youth system? It's more sustainable than always having to sign players, players that are likely on more wages than players we produce ourselves.
The way our first team aynis hardly attractive to younger players coming through, and more and more of them will choose to not play for Cardiff if they're going to be bypassed in games because the ball is hoofed over their heads.

Its not just about winning, it's about surviving and being self sufficient

[UNDERHILL1927]

Teams play to win. Fans watch to be entertained, that's how I read it.

It's impossible to be entertained by a loss in my opinion, impossible

[UNDERHILL1927]

Come on.. that first half was worse to watch than paint drying.

As soon as that third goal went in and the win was confirmed I totally forgot about the first half. It was awful, I can't deny that but we won 3-1. I'll be happy until we lose again

[dembethewarrior]

It's impossible to be entertained by a loss in my opinion, impossible

You skipped my direct reply to you earlier then, but answered this?

[WJ99mobile]

Some people are never happy whatever we do

My post was genuinely not a criticism of the team in any way it was a genuine question on if we are to play effectively for set pieces as it seemed today, how do we maximise that and get the percentages in our favour

Our issue is not the scoring from the set pieces but getting into an attacking position to get them. Why not cut out the middle man and go route one rather than fanny about.

[goats]

Easy - he hasnt.

He has,for a long time too….

[Random in Duquesa]

Yes I spent 50 odd years happy to win with a ball in off someone's arse, especially in the long lower division years. But the call for better performance is so that we can continue to win , even against better teams in this division or if promoted .
They aren't mutually exclusive

[willo1927]

People should be allowed to constructively criticise even winning performances.

I don't want to watch football if its going to be hoofed about, but OP makes a fair point.

Don't watch it then
We'd all like to see us playing like Brazil but it's not going to happen anytime soon.
It would take a lot of money and at least 3 seasons to change us into a free flowing team.
People say that they would take a few mid table finishes to change our style but it would more than likely end in relegation with 2 years.
Look at what happened when Trollope tried to do it.
And as Sunderland are finding out its not easy to get back into the championship.
It took us nearly 20 years to get back after the last time we were relegated from this division
It's not pretty but it's effective and it's my team which I'm proud to support.
You should try it sometime.

[willo1927]

The players and staff are there purely to win the game. The fans pay to watch them, not tell them how to play. If someone doesnt fiind it entertaining, there are plenty of other things to do on a Saturday afternoon

Agreed
I don't think people realise what being a true fan is about.

[willo1927]

Teams play to win. Fans watch to be entertained, that's how I read it.

TV audiences watch to be entertained
Fans go to matches to see their team win.
There is the difference between the 2.

[dembethewarrior]

Don't watch it then
We'd all like to see us playing like Brazil but it's not going to happen anytime soon.
It would take a lot of money and at least 3 seasons to change us into a free flowing team.
People say that they would take a few mid table finishes to change our style but it would more than likely end in relegation with 2 years.
Look at what happened when Trollope tried to do it.
And as Sunderland are finding out its not easy to get back into the championship.
It took us nearly 20 years to get back after the last time we were relegated from this division
It's not pretty but it's effective and it's my team which I'm proud to support.
You should try it sometime.

I can't reply to that until I finish laughing.

[dembethewarrior]

Agreed
I don't think people realise what being a true fan is about.

[willo1927]

I can't reply to that until I finish laughing.

Take your time
Too many long words for you?

[RichardM]

I want to see entertaining football but I know it isn't going to happen anytime soon. I enjoy it when we win and get fed up with the crap I have to watch most weeks whether we win or lose.
None of that is going to stop me watching every week. I just get depressed when I think about what will happen if we get promoted again, another season of inevitable relegation (although I did enjoy that win at home to Man City and the one away to Man United).

[dembethewarrior]

Take your time
Too many long words for you?

Your attempt at a smart arse would be OK if there were any big words in there and the post wasn't age 8 reading standard.
The mere fact I am able to type proficiently in English and read your post to be able to dismiss it with a laugh should tell you I understood it.

Just because I chose not to reply, does bit mean I didn't read it.

Your reply of "don't go then" and in another reply "not proper fans" tells me enough about your intellectual level.


I'm watching SEALS now, eating a calzone, that's a folded up pizza for the uncultured among us.

[RichardM]

Your attempt at a smart arse would be OK if there were any big words in there and the post wasn't age 8 reading standard.
The mere fact I am able to type proficiently in English and read your post to be able to dismiss it with a laugh should tell you I understood it.

Just because I chose not to reply, does bit mean I didn't read it.

Your reply of "don't go then" and in another reply "not proper fans" tells me enough about your intellectual level.


I'm watching SEALS now, eating a calzone, that's a folded up pizza for the uncultured among us.

Have you got a nice glass of red wine with that or an uncultured lager?

[dembethewarrior]

Have you got a nice glass of red wine with that or an uncultured lager?

I had a smoothie. Don't drink at home (well my own house at least I'll shovel them away elsewhere) and I can't drink alcohol while eating a meal either 👍

[willo1927]

Your attempt at a smart arse would be OK if there were any big words in there and the post wasn't age 8 reading standard.
The mere fact I am able to type proficiently in English and read your post to be able to dismiss it with a laugh should tell you I understood it.

Just because I chose not to reply, does bit mean I didn't read it.

Your reply of "don't go then" and in another reply "not proper fans" tells me enough about your intellectual level.


I'm watching SEALS now, eating a calzone, that's a folded up pizza for the uncultured among us.

When did I say you didn't read it?
So maybe you're not that intelligent
People who always say that they are more intellectual usually ate the opposite.
You seem to be a fine example of this.
Why would you go to watch something you don't enjoy?
You are not what I call a real fan as you only post negatively

Try being positive and you might enjoy it more.

Eating this late is not a good idea.
Watch the heartburn