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    Re: McCarthy is ruining our club. Sack him NOW before it gets worse.

    Any new manager would have to play according to the strengths of the players he has available.To play a different way would require a new team and there are no funds available or a transfer window to acquire them. It would be ridiculous to change the manager now.

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    Re: McCarthy is ruining our club. Sack him NOW before it gets worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    Any new manager would have to play according to the strengths of the players he has available.To play a different way would require a new team and there are no funds available or a transfer window to acquire them. It would be ridiculous to change the manager now.
    How many transfer windows do we need to say this after though?

    It seems we get a new manager, the board tell us they want a more entertaining style. They then sign players that fit into our long ball style and then repeat it.

    One way to guarantee long ball football is to employ long ball manager after long ball manager and give them what little money we have.

    It wouldn't be too bad if it was successful long ball football. We're getting found out by more and more sides and our usually resolute back line are anything but so far.

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    Re: McCarthy is ruining our club. Sack him NOW before it gets worse.

    What you're asking for is for the board to:

    i) buy Mick and staff out of their contract, and
    ii) probably compensate another club as part of hiring their managerial team, and
    iii) back the new manager in the next transfer window

    That seems highly unlikely at the end of this year and impossible to believe before the end of this year, unless things start to go badly wrong.

    However, please return to this post when Mick does eventually go and compare the club's position to what Warnock left us with. That will be the test of whether we've progressed or not.

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    Re: McCarthy is ruining our club. Sack him NOW before it gets worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    It seems we get a new manager, the board tell us they want a more entertaining style.
    I don’t recall anyone on the board saying anything of the sort when McCarthy was appointed.

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    Re: McCarthy is ruining our club. Sack him NOW before it gets worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I don’t recall anyone on the board saying anything of the sort when McCarthy was appointed.
    I would have done . I thought he was a shocking , short sighted appointment. I started to bore myself moaning about him and the hoof ball.


    I accept he is now our manager , constantly moaning is unlikely to change anything.
    We should have had a crack with Craig Bellamy , at least he is forward thinking. Don't know how his temperament is suited though.

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    Re: McCarthy is ruining our club. Sack him NOW before it gets worse.

    Since Dave Jones left May 2011, and excluding caretakers, Cardiff City have played 42 games under unproven managers with an attacking mindset and 399 games under experienced managers with a more basic approach.

    Excluding 12 games under Trollope, we've gone from Slade to Warnock to Harris to Mick.

    Can we please at least agree that "lacking vision" isn't a good enough description of what's happened?

    On the plus side:

    i) The last player to break from youth team into first team was Declan John in 2013-14 (before that there was Ben Nugent in '12-'13 and Joe Ralls in '11-'12) but through want or necessity that stat will need to be updated now. Harris was first in a good long while to talk seriously about promoting youth.

    ii) Transfer windows also seem to be becoming better.

    iii) Manager change is unlikely to happen until after Mick has gone via contract exhaustion but this should result in increasingly noticeable change of style of play, though I still think we're going to be more Nuno's Wolves rather than Bruno's Wolves so might not be good enough for some people. To be honest, I think we'll see that slight change before Mick goes but it won't be enough for those wanting Pep's Barca.

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    Re: McCarthy is ruining our club. Sack him NOW before it gets worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    How many transfer windows do we need to say this after though?

    It seems we get a new manager, the board tell us they want a more entertaining style. They then sign players that fit into our long ball style and then repeat it.

    One way to guarantee long ball football is to employ long ball manager after long ball manager and give them what little money we have.

    It wouldn't be too bad if it was successful long ball football. We're getting found out by more and more sides and our usually resolute back line are anything but so far.
    I have said this before but you obviously never read anything anyone else says. We signed four players this summer - none of them are long ball or ‘hoofball’ as you like to call it, players. They are all technically proficient players who like the ball to feet and can pass. That tends to drive a horse and cart through your theory as to how Mick McCarthy wants us to play. Also a number of the goals that we have let in recently have been as a result of individual errors by young players (including Sang for example in yesterday match) - what do you want us to do, get rid of them all out of the team ? They need to learn and get experience by playing, not criticism and ridicule by people like you. They will learn from their mistakes and become better players for it. Also, even Jurssett yesterday thought that we played some good football and very little long stuff - if he can see that with his one eyed views, why cant you - oh, I forgot, you don't go to games and get all your info off the back of a fag packet or by making it up.

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    Re: McCarthy is ruining our club. Sack him NOW before it gets worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    I have said this before but you obviously never read anything anyone else says. We signed four players this summer - none of them are long ball or ‘hoofball’ as you like to call it, players. They are all technically proficient players who like the ball to feet and can pass. That tends to drive a horse and cart through your theory as to how Mick McCarthy wants us to play. Also a number of the goals that we have let in recently have been as a result of individual errors by young players (including Sang for example in yesterday match) - what do you want us to do, get rid of them all out of the team ? They need to learn and get experience by playing, not criticism and ridicule by people like you. They will learn from their mistakes and become better players for it. Also, even Jurssett yesterday thought that we played some good football and very little long stuff - if he can see that with his one eyed views, why cant you - oh, I forgot, you don't go to games and get all your info off the back of a fag packet or by making it up.
    I agree. The initial post is ridiculous. I actually enjoyed yesterday's game, it was end to end and we played some nice football all at times. We didn't defend very well, and didn't exploit our set pieces but could have had 4 or five goals. Giles was clear through, Moore had one kicked off the line and one deflected wide and their 'keeper saved from Bacuna and Bagan.

    A couple of years ago everybody was stating how we were signing players for big fees and high wages , and Warnock didn't give any youngsters a chance. As said above we've offloaded Bamba, Holiett, Day, Glatzel and Williams. And lost Wilson and Ojo too. And in our sued for League games since MM has come here has been Bagan, Harris, Colwill, Sang, Brown, McGuiness, Evans, Patten and Isaac Davies. And in cup games we have used Tom Davies, D'Almeida, Bowen and Denham. Do we expect to win the League then?

    As for Wintle I expect he has been sent out to free up a slot (and a wage) to bring in another player in a different position.

    Yes let's sack MM and re-appoint Warnock! Would you give him your chequebook? (If we have a chequebook these days).

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    Re: McCarthy is ruining our club. Sack him NOW before it gets worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    Any new manager would have to play according to the strengths of the players he has available.To play a different way would require a new team and there are no funds available or a transfer window to acquire them. It would be ridiculous to change the manager now.
    someone else who knows all about the club and the owner's financial situations. you should be a share dealer, you clearly ave inside information.

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