Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
So you went to church every Sunday as a 14 year old kid whilst others were out fishing , playing football , listening to music ?

I think I had a normal childhood myself

I don't think it's normal for 14 year old boys to be singing religious songs with their parents

Christians do good things

Ordinary people do good things

The bible tells Christians if they do good acts they will go to heaven but only if they also worship God and Jesus

I would rather be an ordinary person who does good things then we can cut out the church bit and you can then be certain someone collecting for the homeless is a good person not doing it to get them to paradise
Aye but religious folks only do good deeds to curry favour with their (non-existent) deity of choice not necessarily because they recognize the inherent goodness in their acts

Non-religious folks do good deeds without the need for "heavenly" reward.

Who are the better group? Clearly the non-religious.