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Thread: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

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    A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Should be interesting, everything about this case always has been,

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/lifest...actie-21462561


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    Dreadful fit up.

    The Actie's were no saints but he didn't deserve that.

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    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Should be interesting, everything about this case always has been,

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/lifest...actie-21462561

    The officer who reopened the case was a credit to his profession and he got the real killer

    But why have the original coppers who fitted up the cardiff 5 never been charged ?

    It's staggering

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    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Dreadful fit up.

    The Actie's were no saints but he didn't deserve that.
    They just wanted those 5 off the streets, begs belief they almost did it. Loads of the docks lads were a bit lively to put it mildly, we’re the police going to fit them all up if they could get away with it? Makes you wonder if the same old bill had been fitting people up for years

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    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Murder in the Dock on BBC Sounds is well worth a listen. About a dozen episodes, but gripping stuff.

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    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    They just wanted those 5 off the streets, begs belief they almost did it. Loads of the docks lads were a bit lively to put it mildly, we’re the police going to fit them all up if they could get away with it? Makes you wonder if the same old bill had been fitting people up for years
    Indeed it's the same with Colin Stagg ,and many more .

    Watch Red Riding Drama and West Midlands force.

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    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    They just wanted those 5 off the streets, begs belief they almost did it. Loads of the docks lads were a bit lively to put it mildly, we’re the police going to fit them all up if they could get away with it? Makes you wonder if the same old bill had been fitting people up for years
    That's exactly as I see it. The police wanted the Actie's off the streets, and saw that the best way of doing it was to fit them up

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    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    The officer who reopened the case was a credit to his profession and he got the real killer

    But why have the original coppers who fitted up the cardiff 5 never been charged ?

    It's staggering
    No the officer who reopened the case just done his job.

    The original coppers were absolute bastards.

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    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    The podcast about this case on Shreds / BBC Sounds is very good

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    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Indeed it's the same with Colin Stagg ,and many more .

    Watch Red Riding Drama and West Midlands force.
    The “Honey trap” that the police used to try to get a confession from Stag, was horrendous.Policing at it’s worst.
    The real killer could have been stopped 3 or 4 murders before, if it wasn’t for police negligence.
    As with Peter Sutcliffe.

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    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    The “Honey trap” that the police used to try to get a confession from Stag, was horrendous.Policing at it’s worst.
    The real killer could have been stopped 3 or 4 murders before, if it wasn’t for police negligence.
    As with Peter Sutcliffe.
    I watched the Netflix series about the Sutcliffe case. The police investigation was shocking! Should have been caught years before.

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    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    Murder in the Dock on BBC Sounds is well worth a listen. About a dozen episodes, but gripping stuff.
    That's such a good podcast, really well made and incredibly gripping. The injustice is staggering.

    I was only a kid at the time of the case and didn't know much about it, so didn't realise it had huge ramifications for the British legal system, the growth in importance of forensic evidence and how police interrogations are conducted.

    Even more enlightening was that I once lived in St James Mansions down the Bay, opposite the Coal Exchange. Had no idea the flat where it happened was just across the road!

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    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Those surviving guys look so haunted and beyond their years

    John Actie has lost so much weight , as has Stephen Miller , Tony Paris has put so much on

    I don't care what else they got up to , they were innocent of this horrific crime

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    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Those surviving guys look so haunted and beyond their years

    John Actie has lost so much weight , as has Stephen Miller , Tony Paris has put so much on

    I don't care what else they got up to , they were innocent of this horrific crime
    Eh? I didn’t miss it did I? Thought it was on Thursday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Eh? I didn’t miss it did I? Thought it was on Thursday?
    This Thursday

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    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    On tonight , 9pm , 1st of 3

    What astounds me is not that they were fitted up , there are good coppers and bad coppers , as society has good and bad

    It's that those officers that framed these men through bullying interrogation have not faced Justice ?

    It's said that vital information about their guilt went missing ? Then appeared again after they had been acquitted by a court ?

    What is this information , who hid it or misplaced it and why can't it be used to convict these former officers of wrongdoing ?

    Wtf is going on ?

    Well done to the detective who hunted down the real killer but are these officers just going to fade into retirement ?

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    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    On tonight , 9pm , 1st of 3

    What astounds me is not that they were fitted up , there are good coppers and bad coppers , as society has good and bad

    It's that those officers that framed these men through bullying interrogation have not faced Justice ?

    It's said that vital information about their guilt went missing ? Then appeared again after they had been acquitted by a court ?

    What is this information , who hid it or misplaced it and why can't it be used to convict these former officers of wrongdoing ?

    Wtf is going on ?

    Well done to the detective who hunted down the real killer but are these officers just going to fade into retirement ?
    They have faded into retirement. One of them laughs about what happened.

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    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lynette_White

    Plenty in there about the police officers who obviously got away with criminal behaviour

    Staggering

    Big fat pensions no doubt

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    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    They have faded into retirement. One of them laughs about what happened.
    This is one of the biggest fit ups in UK criminal justice history and it happened here , in South Wales

    There was a really good copper from neath who when semi retired set up a cold case investigation department , overseen by South Wales Police

    He nailed a fair few people who thought they had got away with it

    I am amazed he wasn't asked to get his corrupt to face justice

    It makes you wonder 🤔

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    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    On tonight , 9pm , 1st of 3

    What astounds me is not that they were fitted up , there are good coppers and bad coppers , as society has good and bad

    It's that those officers that framed these men through bullying interrogation have not faced Justice ?

    It's said that vital information about their guilt went missing ? Then appeared again after they had been acquitted by a court ?

    What is this information , who hid it or misplaced it and why can't it be used to convict these former officers of wrongdoing ?

    Wtf is going on ?

    Well done to the detective who hunted down the real killer but are these officers just going to fade into retirement ?
    The problem is that nobody gives a **** anymore, the public aren't interested and the police less so.

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