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  1. #61

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
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  2. #62

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    Sad to read about what became of them after, Ronnie living in a shed in the garden for 7 years and dying of deep vein thrombosis, dulla seemed ok initially but his mental health suffered and he became a recluse, passing away young. They did all receive compensation (Miller 500k, john 300k, Ronnie 200k, not sure the others) but I don’t suppose it equates to the mental suffering endured then and forever after……

  3. #63

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Sad to read about what became of them after, Ronnie living in a shed in the garden for 7 years and dying of deep vein thrombosis, dulla seemed ok initially but his mental health suffered and he became a recluse, passing away young. They did all receive compensation (Miller 500k, john 300k, Ronnie 200k, not sure the others) but I don’t suppose it equates to the mental suffering endured then and forever after……
    Apparently, Ronnie gave a lot of his money to his daughter. The shed he lived in was in Gabalfa. It was in a mates garden. He'd go inside the house to watch films etc then retire to his shed. The shed was tiny, apparently.

  4. #64

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    Watched the next 2 episodes on iplayer after seeing the first.

    Was a decent documentary, never really went into much detail about the case though and maybe a bit too much Actie dramatically staring into the distance but it definitely showed the investigation up for what it was.

    Did they really move the case to Swansea because there would be next to no chance of any black jurors?

    I don't know if she has family remaining but White's family..... Can't even imagine how they felt after the murder but then to suffer this shit show also.

    Well worth a watch.

  5. #65

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    Watched the next 2 episodes on iplayer after seeing the first.

    Was a decent documentary, never really went into much detail about the case though and maybe a bit too much Actie dramatically staring into the distance but it definitely showed the investigation up for what it was.

    Did they really move the case to Swansea because there would be next to no chance of any black jurors?

    I don't know if she has family remaining but White's family..... Can't even imagine how they felt after the murder but then to suffer this shit show also.

    Well worth a watch.
    Moving it to ‘very white’ swansea was also part of the police idea to make sure they got found guilty…..no doubt it would have worked well if the first judge hadn’t dropped dead just before the verdict…..

  6. #66

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Moving it to ‘very white’ swansea was also part of the police idea to make sure they got found guilty…..no doubt it would have worked well if the first judge hadn’t dropped dead just before the verdict…..
    The police said witnesses were being intimidated so that's why it was moved to Swansea

    But it wouldn't surprise me if it was to get a conviction

    How on earth were they convicted just on this confession , no forensic evidence at all

  7. #67

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Miller said that he wasn't her pimp. his word' He hustled. Are you sure that the film makers actually said thiat Miller was pimping? That's one hell of a statement to make, without evidence.....
    Yep , look at the press releases for the documentary

    They are written by the production team and they wouldn't have said he was her pimp if they were at all concerned that wasn't true

  8. #68

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Yep , look at the press releases for the documentary

    They are written by the production team and they wouldn't have said he was her pimp if they were at all concerned that wasn't true
    I appreciate that wikipedia can at times not be the most reliable source of information, but they describe him as both her boyfriend and her pimp.

  9. #69

    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Yep , look at the press releases for the documentary

    They are written by the production team and they wouldn't have said he was her pimp if they were at all concerned that wasn't true
    Link the press release. He was in no way portrayed as her pimp in the documentary.

  10. #70

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Pimp my arse. Stephen Miller was a 22 year old with the mental age of a 11 year old and a bit of a wet weekend if truth be told.

    Typical Monkfish. He’s black, he must be her pimp.

    What those coppers subjected that boy to was an absolute disgrace, and on tape too! How they’ve never been prosecuted is a travesty..

    I’ve just watched episodes 2 and 3 in the iplayer. SWP are a ****ing disgrace.
    Watch your gob pal. If you're suggesting I'm a racist come out and say it and we'll see where it takes you.
    He was her pimp. she did tricks to pay for his coke habit. It was common knowledge and even came out in the appeal and second trial.

  11. #71

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    How a QC can investigate the police and conclude that it was merely human error and not “bad faith” that the documents went missing only to be found when the case against them collapsed is utterly deplorable.

    The Stephen Miller tapes alone should have been enough to put those corrupt bastards away.

    Rotten to the core.

  12. #72

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Watch your gob pal. If you're suggesting I'm a racist come out and say it and we'll see where it takes you.
    He was her pimp. she did tricks to pay for his coke habit. It was common knowledge and even came out in the appeal and second trial.
    She did tricks to pay for her own survival you piece of shit.

    Come out from who? The police? That would figure

  13. #73

    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Link the press release. He was in no way portrayed as her pimp in the documentary.
    He denied being her pimp in the documentary

    That doesn't mean he wasn't

    He was fitted up , he had learning difficulties and his confession led to a shocking miscarriage of justice

    At the trial of the police officers that collapsed he was named by a local taxi driver as being her pimp, controlling her , kicking her

  14. #74

    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    He denied being her pimp in the documentary

    That doesn't mean he wasn't

    He was fitted up , he had learning difficulties and his confession led to a shocking miscarriage of justice

    At the trial of the police officers that collapsed he was named by a local taxi driver as being her pimp, controlling her , kicking her
    I know the story, I’ve just watched the documentary. I’m fully aware of his learning disabilities.

    You said it was in the press release. Surely that’s easy for you to link?

  15. #75

    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    I know the story, I’ve just watched the documentary. I’m fully aware of his learning disabilities.

    You said it was in the press release. Surely that’s easy for you to link?
    It was , I was reading it last night

    Here is another article , from the Independent , that describes Miller as her pimp

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1917974.html

    The question was asked that's a hell of a accusation to make . Well it's been being made for years and if it wasn't true I am sure the Independent would have been sued by now .

    I think it's clear he was living off her earnings .

    That of course has nothing to do with his race .

  16. #76

    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    She did tricks to pay for her own survival you piece of shit.

    Come out from who? The police? That would figure
    Wrong again. You're also nasty piece of work who throws his 'weight' around on a keyboard. What a miserable way to spend one's life.

  17. #77

    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    It was , I was reading it last night

    Here is another article , from the Independent , that describes Miller as her pimp

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1917974.html

    The question was asked that's a hell of a accusation to make . Well it's been being made for years and if it wasn't true I am sure the Independent would have been sued by now .

    I think it's clear he was living off her earnings .

    That of course has nothing to do with his race .
    Stephen Miller sue the independent? 😂 He looks like he’s struggle to write a postage note let alone sue a national newspaper.

    You said the shows press release said he was a pimp. Nevermind speculation elsewhere you said the actual show he was a part of put it out on their press release. Now either put up, or shut up.

  18. #78

    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Wrong again. You're also nasty piece of work who throws his 'weight' around on a keyboard. What a miserable way to spend one's life.
    You have no empathy with the likes of the Lynette Whites and Stephens Millers of this world. You are a horrible, right wing, I’m alright Jack, twat.

  19. #79

    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Stephen Miller sue the independent? 😂 He looks like he’s struggle to write a postage note let alone sue a national newspaper.

    You said the shows press release said he was a pimp. Nevermind speculation elsewhere you said the actual show he was a part of put it out on their press release. Now either put up, or shut up.
    I was reading it last night

    It was printed as fact

    And it's been printed as fact over many years

    If you want to debate an issue of race look for that battle elsewhere , he was 22 , a cocaine addict his girlfriend was a prostitute and numerous sources have said he was living off her earnings and was witnessed assaulting her

    The lad was vulnerable but he was her pimp

  20. #80

    Re: A killing in tiger bay…bbc Wales this week

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I was reading it last night

    It was printed as fact

    And it's been printed as fact over many years

    If you want to debate an issue of race look for that battle elsewhere , he was 22 , a cocaine addict his girlfriend was a prostitute and numerous sources have said he was living off her earnings and was witnessed assaulting her

    The lad was vulnerable but he was her pimp
    I'm sure that Miller denied that claim in the first episode. I suppose it's his word against others. I would've thought that there would have to be some hard evidence to make such a claim. Not just circumstantial.

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