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    Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    Brilliant news this, about time we took back control of our waters.
    How many safe countries are these migrants passing through to get here?
    What's the deal with that?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58495948

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    It’s a PR exercise, she’s got no power to turn them back in International waters. The French will not stop them leaving their waters and once they're over the dotted line they’re the UKs responsibility and since we left the EU we can no longer deport them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    It’s a PR exercise, she’s got no power to turn them back in International waters. The French will not stop them leaving their waters and once they're over the dotted line they’re the UKs responsibility and since we left the EU we can no longer deport them
    Your first four words should have been a thread closer Des.

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    Quote Originally Posted by nugent View Post
    Brilliant news this, about time we took back control of our waters.
    How many safe countries are these migrants passing through to get here?
    What's the deal with that?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58495948
    Don't worry, they won't be going to Barry....ya fkin prejudiced knt.

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    You can move this fcker over to the non-football board asap so we can all forget about it. Fckin embarrassing. some of the retrobates on here.

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Wright View Post
    You can move this fcker over to the non-football board asap so we can all forget about it. Fckin embarrassing. some of the retrobates on here.
    People have different opinions about it.

    On the one hand, it's allowing desperate people to leave France to come to the UK.

    On the other its facilitating a global human trafficking programme that is one of the most obnoxious trades on earth.

    The reality is it's both, but people should be able to talk about it without people shutting it down.

    Personally, I think it's right to rescue people from warzones - we evacuated thousands from Afghanistan, and it's right to have a liberal immigration programme, but you cant just turn up and enter a country from another safe one. That isn't right, however much you want it.

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    People have different opinions about it.

    On the one hand, it's allowing desperate people to leave France to come to the UK.

    On the other its facilitating a global human trafficking programme that is one of the most obnoxious trades on earth.

    The reality is it's both, but people should be able to talk about it without people shutting it down.

    Personally, I think it's right to rescue people from warzones - we evacuated thousands from Afghanistan, and it's right to have a liberal immigration programme, but you cant just turn up and enter a country from another safe one. That isn't right, however much you want it.
    so target the criminals, not the victims.

    its ****ing shameful and Patel needs to have a long period of introspection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    so target the criminals, not the victims.

    its ****ing shameful and Patel needs to have a long period of introspection.
    They are targeted.

    But one of the ultimate ways to stop crime is to make it less profitable. Thats all it is. Its a trade in people who want to go to another country.

    The naivity is incredible.

    There are ways to help those in desperate need in the world. This isnt it.

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Wright View Post
    You can move this fcker over to the non-football board asap so we can all forget about it. Fckin embarrassing. some of the retrobates on here.
    After last nights game football is the last thing I want to talk about

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    Our waters !

    Our borders !

    Our jobs !

    Jurassic Park 2021

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    People have different opinions about it.

    On the one hand, it's allowing desperate people to leave France to come to the UK.

    On the other its facilitating a global human trafficking programme that is one of the most obnoxious trades on earth.

    The reality is it's both, but people should be able to talk about it without people shutting it down.
    I don't think the original poster was thinking about the welfare of human beings or the global human trafficking programme when he posted this

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I don't think the original poster was thinking about the welfare of human beings or the global human trafficking programme when he posted this
    Wasnt he?

    Anyone who is, is labelled a racist even for raising it, so we don't know.

    I'd say millions are concerned about this matter and it's high time the country had a sensible conversation about it.

    It's not right, and everyone knows it, whoever you vote for.

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    Sounds like the measures to joint measures to deal with this broke down with France on Wednesday .

    I wonder if France has any interest in stopping this .

    I am baffled why so many migrants travel through so many wonderful Europe countries to get to us, many say we treat folk dreadfully ??

    The mayor of Calais summed it up for me when interviewed a month or so ago ( "if you didn't make it so inviting they would not cross" ) so it begs the question how are they treated on mainland Europe and France , what don't they get in France that forces them to our shores , are they treated that badly , are they victimised ??

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Sounds like the measures to joint measures to deal with this broke down with France on Wednesday .

    I wonder if France has any interest in stopping this .

    I am baffled why so many migrants travel through so many wonderful Europe countries to get to us, many say we treat folk dreadfully ??

    The mayor of Calais summed it up for me when interviewed a month or so ago ( "if you didn't make it so inviting they would not cross" ) so it begs the question how are they treated on mainland Europe and France , what don't they get in France that forces them to our shores , are they treated that badly , are they victimised ??
    What the French do is intercept the boats in the channel and then escort them further across, leaving them in British waters for us to deal with. All they are interested in is getting rid.

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    What the French do is intercept the boats in the channel and then escort them further across, leaving them in British waters for us to deal with. All they are interested in is getting rid.
    the French have already stated that they will try to prevent boats from launching, and stop the criminal gangs, but will not stop boats that have already launched as that could be dangerous and lead to loss of life.
    if they are floundering and request help them they will if course save them.

    that seems to be a sensible approach to take, surely nobody wants anyone to needlessly die because of this?

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    Quote Originally Posted by nugent View Post
    Brilliant news this, about time we took back control of our waters.
    How many safe countries are these migrants passing through to get here?
    What's the deal with that?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58495948
    It's not brilliant news. It's against international laws.

    I'm all for going after the gangs who organise such voyages (although the Tories have now reduced our ability to do that with budget cuts) but this is just inhumane.

    Also, the Tories have reduced our ability to negotiate and collaborate with the EU so that migrants can be absorbed across the EU.

    However, the Tories had no intention of dealing with this when we were in the EU as they used migrants as political leverage to make people angry at the EU and therefore advance their right wing agenda.

    Patel is one of the most corrupt and toxic politicians we have ever had. She has been found guilty of bullying on THREE separate occasions which cost the tax payer money in compensation.

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    since we left the EU we can no longer deport them
    If their asylum application fails they can be deported, what difference does being in the EU make?

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    Quote Originally Posted by AfricanBluebird View Post
    It's not brilliant news. It's against international laws.

    I'm all for going after the gangs who organise such voyages (although the Tories have now reduced our ability to do that with budget cuts) but this is just inhumane.

    Also, the Tories have reduced our ability to negotiate and collaborate with the EU so that migrants can be absorbed across the EU.

    However, the Tories had no intention of dealing with this when we were in the EU as they used migrants as political leverage to make people angry at the EU and therefore advance their right wing agenda.

    Patel is one of the most corrupt and toxic politicians we have ever had. She has been found guilty of bullying on THREE separate occasions which cost the tax payer money in compensation.
    She's a twat

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Wasnt he?

    Anyone who is, is labelled a racist even for raising it, so we don't know.

    I'd say millions are concerned about this matter and it's high time the country had a sensible conversation about it.

    It's not right, and everyone knows it, whoever you vote for.
    Yes I am certain he wasn't

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    On the other its facilitating a global human trafficking programme that is one of the most obnoxious trades on earth.
    If you think this is why they’re doing this I’ve got a bridge to sell you, you disingenuous c*nt.

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    If you think this is why they’re doing this I’ve got a bridge to sell you, you disingenuous c*nt.
    What's your solution? Or do you just ignore it and insult anyone with a different view or who tries to address and acknowledge issues?

    What would you do?

    And yes, this is a part of the global human trafficking trade. It absolutely is.

    And no, not everyone arriving in boats is fleeing war.

    And no, they aren't all good, honourable people. Some are. Some aren't. Most destroy ID so we have no idea.

    There is a process and this isnt it.

    We all know, just some are willing to address it, and some are happy with fingers in ears insulting people and shouting racist.

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    If you think this is why they’re doing this I’ve got a bridge to sell you, you disingenuous c*nt.

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    What's your solution? Or do you just ignore it and insult anyone with a different view or who tries to address and acknowledge issues?

    What would you do?
    Are you saying this thread was about solutions and trying to address and acknowledge issues ?

    I thought it was a rant from a Sun reader

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Are you saying this thread was about solutions and trying to address and acknowledge issues ?

    I thought it was a rant from a Sun reader
    So no solution then? No ideas? No proposals?

    Lots of words, lots of virtue-signalling. No actual solution?

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    Re: Priti Patel issues orders to turn them boats around

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    So no solution then? No ideas? No proposals?

    Lots of words, lots of virtue-signalling. No actual solution?
    JW- The OP was being a bell-end. Now you are.

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