+ Visit Cardiff FC for Latest News, Transfer Gossip, Fixtures and Match Results |
Defending Pritti Patel, saying anyone opposing it is a virtue signaller, just using the phrase virtue signalling and calling David Schneider far left.
What a twat.
What are you talking about? So we can’t discuss something without coming up with a practical solution?
Virtue signalling doesn’t means making people think you’re a good person without actually being one doesn’t it?
Im sorry pal you are speaking complete and utter shite here.
Virtue signalling has lost all meaning to the right leaning dopes who can’t understand empathy.
You keep coming up with the sectarian 'left / right' stuff.
The difference here is in trying to solve the problem of thousands of people, who may or may not be deserving of asylum, making a dangerous crossing that enriches criminal gangs and costs us at the same time.
It's about finding a solution to that. Acknowledging that reality doesnt make anyone 'right wing' and it certainly doesnt make anyone 'far-right' as you ludicrously said earlier.
It's about finding practical steps to solving a problem. If you cant do that without offering insults and just saying soppy things then so be it, but you aren't helping anyone, least of all people in genuine need if you keep tolerating the existing situation.
Bloody lefites! (joke, chill ya pants)
The solution is international diplomacy, treating other countries with respect and trying to work together with them. This is something we are really 'missin' at the moment with Priti and the rest of the gang. Your concern for the danger they are putting themselves through seems a bit false when you are quite happy for them to turn around and go back the other way rather than safely bring them to shore and process them.
No it's not, because the idea is to undermine the viability of the route so that the gangs don't operate it.
The threat of turning them around may help to stem the viability of the route.
The crossing is dangerous. Being cool with the current situation doesn't scream out concern for their welfare either ya know.
Well, they can go back to suffocating in the back of lorries if you want, that was fun too.
Anybody willing to take a dinghy across the channel isn't going to be persuaded not to try by turning some boats around, they will try again or find another way. Like most Brexity strategies this is a sledgehammer to crack a walnut and doesn't address the underlying issue.
Refugees are always going to gravitate towards countries where they have sort of link , it's human nature
15 years ago the UK , France and Germany had established migrant populations so were hotspots so to speak
The UK has dropped away whilst France , Germany take and continue to take the lions share and countries previously not associated with migration ......Italy , Sweden , Norway , Denmark etc have taken in large amounts
Xenophobia and ignorance fueled brexit
A pathetic attempt at headlines from a desperate Home Secretary, clueless in the extreme. No-one is going to push back migrant boats mid Channel. A. It's illegal B. Far too dangerous and risks swamping small boats C all one person has to do is jump overboard and it becomes a rescue mission in which ship's captains are obliged to assist D chances are a ship's insurance would be invalidated if it attempted to intervene in redirecting another vessel by "push back". E how many Border Force vessels are there? Significantly fewer than boats trying to cross the Channel. This seems to have alluded the Home Secretary.
Anyone not spotted the irony in immigrant's offspring trying to stop immigration?
Finally, anyone claiming asylum can't work legally. So , no lorry drivers or ticket office staff.
And the whole point of this thread is the practical solution announced today is ****ing stupid and abhorrent.
If thinking that is “virtue signalling” then it’s pointless discussing anything again.
The current situation where people legally seek asylum and then get vetted is infinitely better than turning them round at sea. How does even solve the “people traffickers” issue at all?
I'm sure we are allowed to condemn state-attempted murder without having a solution.