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Thread: Is violence to genuine football fans what religion is to actual Christianity?

  1. #21

    Re: Is violence to genuine football fans what religion is to actual Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    And you have said that more than once too

    Why bother reading a thread about Christianity if you know there will be people justifying it , people argue in against it and people taking the piss

    You know the score , go and do a crossword or something
    Well done.

  2. #22

    Re: Is violence to genuine football fans what religion is to actual Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    The big contradiction being that this only applies to non-believers in the eyes of believers. As a non-believer it's irrelevant.
    It's not really a contradiction. Dem's da rules for those in da club.

  3. #23

    Re: Is violence to genuine football fans what religion is to actual Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    It's not really a contradiction. Dem's da rules for those in da club.
    I am joining another club

  4. #24

    Re: Is violence to genuine football fans what religion is to actual Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Doesn’t being a genuine christian, just mean living an honest life, and helping as many folk as possible?
    No, because you can be an Atheist a Muslim or a Buddhist and do all that, which would not mean that you would suddenly become a Christian.

    When Paul wrote to Titus, in chapter 3v5 he said this - "He (Christ) saved us, not because of the righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He washed away our sins, giving us a new birth and new life through the Holy Spirit".

  5. #25

    Re: Is violence to genuine football fans what religion is to actual Christianity?

    Again that's what scientific speculation often says, hoping to be true!
    In fact monkeys have been left for long periods of time and typed loads of letters on page after page.
    The result was this, even given that a proper word could be a space followed by an "I" (or an "A") then followed by another space, the monkeys didn't even produce one legitimate word, let alone the encyclopedia britannica or even one word from the Bible.
    And no, they didn't use monkeys from the Swansea area

  6. #26

    Re: Is violence to genuine football fans what religion is to actual Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    I read once that if you give a typewriter to a chimpanzee, and let them randomly hit the keyboard for long enough, they'd eventually type out the entire bible.
    Is that how Christianity started?
    Again that's what scientific speculation often says, hoping to be true!
    In fact monkeys in a controlled experiment have been left for long periods of time and typed loads of letters on page after page.
    The result was this, even given that a proper word could be a space followed by an "I" (or an "A") then followed by another space, the monkeys didn't even produce one legitimate word, let alone the encyclopedia britannica or even one word from the Bible.
    And no, they didn't use monkeys from the Swansea area

  7. #27

    Re: Is violence to genuine football fans what religion is to actual Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Probably

    I was forced to try and read it as a kid , I was given a book called catacisms or something , I used to come home from school saying to my old man this is all silly

    I was 12 , I was more interested in going fishing
    You were force fed religion, I would agree with you that religion makes no sense and only drives people away from their Creator, not the opposite.

  8. #28

    Re: Is violence to genuine football fans what religion is to actual Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    You can prove the somebody called Jesus died and was resurrected?

    Most of what was written about Jesus was done after he died so the witnesses to this resurrection were not even there
    Affirm is to prove or provide evidence ?
    I know that if I pour petrol on a fire it gets more powerful , that's evidence backed up by science
    For me there is no evidence of the existence of God, christ doing miracles etc and the afterlife so unless someone comes up with any it all stops there .
    Yes, most of what was written about Christ was written after His death, resurrection and ascension.
    However it was written by eye witnesses who saw Him AND many who lived and/ or travelled with Him.

    Also, does Science provide the answers to the biggest questions about life?

    Origin - Purpose - Destiny?

  9. #29

    Re: Is violence to genuine football fans what religion is to actual Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    You can prove the somebody called Jesus died and was resurrected?

    Most of what was written about Jesus was done after he died so the witnesses to this resurrection were not even there

    Affirm is to prove or provide evidence ?

    I know that if I pour petrol on a fire it gets more powerful , that's evidence backed up by science

    For me there is no evidence of the existence of God, christ doing miracles etc and the afterlife so unless someone comes up with any it all stops there .
    PROVE that somebody died and was resurrected?

    Have you watched this 2017 Film about an skeptical award winning journalist who investigates this - and like you, the last thing he wants to find is that he is looking at actual History.....

    THE CASE FOR CHRIST (2017)

  10. #30

    Re: Is violence to genuine football fans what religion is to actual Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    You were force fed religion, I would agree with you that religion makes no sense and only drives people away from their Creator, not the opposite.
    Interesting.

  11. #31

    Re: Is violence to genuine football fans what religion is to actual Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Interesting.
    I said what I said concerning religion because it has so many futile man-made ideas in it that it only serves to keep people away from genuine Christianity. When most people encounter the real thing then they notice that there is a difference

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