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Please point out where I said there were never staff shortages before? Exactly I didn't, you know you've got such a weak argument there you actually just made up what I said and argued against that. But it's undeniable that brexit has made that situation far far worse.
£80 billion a year is widely quoted https://www.ft.com/content/6885073e-...9-5a7bc6122d72
And we wouldn't need to have increased national insurance if we weren't hemorrhaging money from brexit.
How much have the tories added to our debt? £1.1 trillion?! You say things aren't free but then you vote for a party who has decimated our economy.
Many in my generation are so utterly beyond fed up of people like you and are counting down the days until your voting block (which had all the advantages and passed **** all onto us) pisses off.
Yeah but our economy isn't decimated in the slightest
National debt increased, no question. But that's what furlough and the rest does.
And how old do you think I am btw🤣
Wishing death on people doesn't encourage people to see things your way either. It makes people think you must be a right bellend..won't listen to him then.
You do get the feeling that people are preying Brexit doesnt develop into a positive ,driven by political views and dislike of certain politicians or parties, you would hope that people could celebrate success if that's the outcome.
Let's be fair though not one of us know if it be a success or failure , as this is a long journey , the one thing we can agree on its not been the devastation as some predicted , in fact some have seen welcome wage increases at the lower end of the pay scales and jobs like HGV drivers an there's jobs to be had.
What planet are you on? People are against brexit because it's devastating to the economy (source - https://fullfact.org/europe/online-c...contributions/), this isn't an opinion, it's a stone cold fact.
So stop saying NoBoDy KnOwS HoW iT wIlL TuRn OuT because I can't think of one realistic scenario where it brings in benefits, don't forget next year we will see more consequences.
Honestly I look around at the people who voted for brexit and it's usually people who are either old (and generally clueless about how their generation have destroyed the economy for young people) or were in the retard class at school.
Did you even read the article you posted as 'evidence'. Quote from the second paragraph
"While it’s difficult to put a single, definitive figure on the economic impact of Brexit, these claims don’t currently add up."
UK is currently outperforming our peers on most measures on official latest economic data. Do I need to repost this stuff again?!
It is too soon to form a clear opinion, especially with Covid, but to say Brexit is devastating the economy is frankly, plain wrong. Even if it is damaging (and the data doesnt suggest that but I'll accept it could be true in some cases) then you need a far more anodyne verb than 'devastating'.
I'm sure from other posts you are a rabidly anti-Thatcher too, so god knows why you now are so supportive of membership of a free-trading arrangement that is essentially Thatcherism on steroids.
Get a grip and realise it's nearly 2022 now, not 2016 or you'll just be even further left behind.
Fantastic news. Go Brexit https://www.itv.com/news/2021-12-10/...ade-in-october
A lot of folk are now saying (including European modellers) that the UK will not have the predicted devastating turmoil we do need to move on and stop moaning .
Yes, the Annual GDP growth rates for the UK and the EU up until Quarter three 2022 are significantly in the UK's favour.
https://tradingeconomics.com/forecas...ntinent=europe
However, facts are always better than predictions, so we will wait and see.
In the meantime, I have them at hand for FBPE cultists.
Weren’t our most recent growth figures (announced last week) described as disappointing?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/15...cs-ONS-figures
Yep, the latest estimates, especially the monthly data were disappointing, albeit on the back of what were generally very good before that. The general picture remains pretty positive, all things considered and compared to our peers.
https://tradingeconomics.com/country...al-growth-rate
No one should get carried away because that would be unhelpful, but more so, no one should paint a disastrous picture that is manifestly false.
Unemployment and wage growth data out tomorrow.
Inflation on wednesday - that won't be pretty.
The fun never ends does it!?
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so is Brexit bad? or have we just handled covid worse than anyone else?
We don't know until we get out of Covid .
I suggest its remarkable to see where we are considering the doom and gloom fired out by many over Brexit and then Covid .
Is the country more resilient than we thought and were the right decisions made .
And I do wonder if the painful austerity measures applied due to financial crash has given us some wriggle room, although it did cause pain for a lot of working folk ??
It’s been claimed that it caused more than pain.
https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom...than-expected/
Although it's an urban myth that Mao stated that it was too early to tell what the effects of the French Revolution were, it's very early days to make an objective valuation about Brexit in this unusual short-term.
From a personal perspective, a friend of mine works in a food export business which is now laying off staff due to the bureacracy, difficulties and expense of exporting perishable food to the EU - and that's after they lost a quite a few EU citizens who were members of staff in the warehouse and decamped earlier this year due to Brexit. It seems that the company is either going to relocate in The Netherlands or go out of business. A singular anecdote and meaningless in the great scheme of things perhaps.
I also spend one weekend a month walking the South West Coast Path and staff shortages in pubs, cafés and restaurants are commonplace. It's not totally clear as to how much that problem is down to Covid and/or Brexit respectively but let's wait and see.
Quite right. We need to wait and see.
In the meantime we will all draw our own conclusions and interpretations from news as it emerges.
In that context, this looks a little desperate
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1976711.html
(CAVEAT, DISCLAIMER etc: It's from the 'lefty' independent, contains no facts and figures, and may well result in 'confirmation bias' )
However, one does get the impression lots of folk are (preying?) Brexit turns out to be a success for political reasons and are keen to shut down debate at the earliest opportunity.
These (hawks?) seem anxious to get their retaliation in as early as they can. So much for these raptors. Maybe Brexit will be destined to be debated upon till the end of time.
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