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    Derby going into administration

    Derby County Football Club today announced that the Club, the ultimate holding company of the group, and all of the subsidiary companies have filed notices of intention to appoint administrators.

    This action was made necessary by a number of developments. Last week, it became clear that the process which has been underway to identify a purchaser for the Club likely would not be productive over the near term, despite the number of negotiations with credible parties. Because the COVID-19 pandemic has had a severe impact on the revenues and profits of all of its businesses, the Club has been unable to service its day-to-day financial obligations. The directors had no choice but to make the tough decision to take this action and protect the Club.

    The irony is that the Club’s financial forecasts show the emergence of a financially sustainable picture. Absent the COVID-19 pandemic, we undoubtedly would have been able to trade through.

    However, the impact of COVID-19 pandemic and the unpredictability it has created represents too much of a strain. As the COVID-19 pandemic and lock down tightened their grip, the Club’s revenues and cash flow took a circa £20 million hit. This season, COVID-19 has continued to have a negative effect on the Club’s revenues. Unlike other sectors, football has been able to only marginally reduce its cost base with the majority of outgoings being associated with playing staff who obviously could not be furloughed. It is widely known that we had significantly reduced our wage bill, but the major benefit of these reductions were not going to take effect until this season.

    The COVID-19 lockdown also meant that we were unable to have face-to-face meetings with a number of potential purchasers who could not visit the stadium or training ground. A planned sale of the club and stadium that was due to close in January 2020 collapsed when the EFL was coerced into challenging the Stadium Sale transaction, a charge that would be dismissed some 9 months later. The ongoing litigation and charges in regard to the P&S regulations and the protracted timetable for this to reach a resolution, added further uncertainty and made negotiations challenging.

    These issues also led the EFL to preclude the Club from drawing down circa £8.3 million of financial assistance, as was made available to all other Championship clubs in respect of settling PAYE liabilities, further aggravating our cash flow and ability to meet our financial obligations. Even today, we await the EFL’s response in these matters. This response is important to the Club, its supporters and also to any prospective purchaser of the Club.

    We wish to thank our supporters, staff and especially our creditors who have sought to help through the pandemic while we have worked to find a purchaser. The Club’s owner has provided substantial funding throughout this period, even as the process has been underway since June 2019 to find a purchaser. We are especially grateful to MSD Partners, who have been hugely supportive and have provided additional financial assistance this year, going far beyond the original loan it provided in August 2020.

    We know this situation will raise concerns among our supporters. The Club respectfully asks that our supporters continue to show their support, especially to the playing staff under Wayne Rooney and our employees who have all been outstanding during these difficult times. This ongoing support in turn will be instrumental as we seek to find a new owner to take the Club forward.

    We appeal to the EFL to now assist the Club and the Administrators in any way they can in the effort to find a purchaser.

    We cannot stress enough how devastating it is to be forced into this position. We all – the owner, the members of the board, and our staff – are true Derby County supporters. We will continue our work under the stewardship of the Administrators to help facilitate their process and their effort to find a purchaser.

    Once Administrators have been appointed in the coming days it will be customary for them to communicate with staff and supporters about timescales and processes to seek a purchaser and address creditor concerns.

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    I usually feel sorry for a club and their fans (we're all the same aren't we?) when things go wrong. But after snowgate, I don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valleys caveman View Post
    I usually feel sorry for a club and their fans (we're all the same aren't we?) when things go wrong. But after snowgate, I don't.
    I feel more than a bit sorry for Wycombe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I feel more than a bit sorry for Wycombe.
    If pack didn’t smash in that last minute goal, they could be in league one with a massive points deduction.

    They could have been the next Sunderland

    They being Derby

    Pack vs Rotherham letting Rotherham stay up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I feel more than a bit sorry for Wycombe.
    Wycombe are, quite rightly, furious: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58622433

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Wycombe are, quite rightly, furious: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58622433
    We had nothing to play for and could have sent Derby down but Pack spoilt it

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    We had nothing to play for and could have sent Derby down but Pack spoilt it
    Should have had his contract terminated on the spot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by valleys caveman View Post
    I usually feel sorry for a club and their fans (we're all the same aren't we?) when things go wrong. But after snowgate, I don't.
    It's a bit petty to harp back to snowgate given the severity of the crisis they are in.... But I do sort of agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick View Post
    It's a bit petty to harp back to snowgate given the severity of the crisis they are in.... But I do sort of agree.
    Look man pull yourself together, it's times like these when the football community need to come together rather than split apart.... But I am thoroughly enjoying this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valleys caveman View Post
    I usually feel sorry for a club and their fans (we're all the same aren't we?) when things go wrong. But after snowgate, I don't.
    I’m the same.

    I really hope they go down and then struggle.

    Unforgivable.

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    It could just as easily be us in all honesty. I don't want to see any club in the shit, but it was inevitable that this was going to happen sooner rather than later. Rooney will be leaving soon, presumably?

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    Weren’t they due a deduction for accounting jiggery pokery? It looks like they are pulling a flanker to have one set of deduction for 2 offences?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Blue View Post
    Weren’t they due a deduction for accounting jiggery pokery? It looks like they are pulling a flanker to have one set of deduction for 2 offences?
    looks like they are trying to pull a fast one again

    would be time for the FA to step up and pull on its big person pants and set a example and say if you ar pulling this stunt, you can have your 2nd punishment next season

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    I see the above link now. Just as I thought.

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    If they were due a points deduction for FFP which, in all likelihood would see them relegated, then it makes sense for them to enter administration aswell and take both deductions in the same season.

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    Sounds like Covid-19 hit Derby when Mel Morris took over in 2015 if not before.

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    They will hold the record low points total for both Premier League and Championship

    Congratulations to them

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    If they were due a points deduction for FFP which, in all likelihood would see them relegated, then it makes sense for them to enter administration aswell and take both deductions in the same season.
    I saw some journalist say if one deduction takes them down the other would be applied next season

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    If they go to in admin don’t allow their players become free agents? Plus, they have to clear all football debts before they are allowed to continue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cityhammer View Post
    If they go to in admin don’t allow their players become free agents? Plus, they have to clear all football debts before they are allowed to continue!
    The players don`t become free agents - that only happens in a Liquidation. One of the problems the Administrators will have is how to reduce the wage bill as no-one can be sold outside the transfer window and players are highly unlikely to agree to a cancellation of their contracts. One strategy used before in football club Administration is to try and do a deal with players , paying up part of their future contract income - this reduces the longer term club liability (making it more attractive for a buyer), gives the player some immediate cash and leaves them free to join a club with no transfer fee involved in January.

    All football debts have to be paid in full . including transfer fee instalments and player wages (subject to a deal being done as above) and all secured creditors also paid so that a creditor with a charge over the ground or other assets either gets paid off or the debt taken on by the new owner. Also all non-secured non football debts have to be paid at least 25% of the amounts they are owed. Only if the above conditions are met can a club come out of Administration. Otherwise it will have to go into liquidation like Bury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninian1962 View Post
    The players don`t become free agents - that only happens in a Liquidation. One of the problems the Administrators will have is how to reduce the wage bill as no-one can be sold outside the transfer window and players are highly unlikely to agree to a cancellation of their contracts. One strategy used before in football club Administration is to try and do a deal with players , paying up part of their future contract income - this reduces the longer term club liability (making it more attractive for a buyer), gives the player some immediate cash and leaves them free to join a club with no transfer fee involved in January.

    All football debts have to be paid in full . including transfer fee instalments and player wages (subject to a deal being done as above) and all secured creditors also paid so that a creditor with a charge over the ground or other assets either gets paid off or the debt taken on by the new owner. Also all non-secured non football debts have to be paid at least 25% of the amounts they are owed. Only if the above conditions are met can a club come out of Administration. Otherwise it will have to go into liquidation like Bury.
    That's all well and good, but they are already struggling to fill a side

    Personally I believe they will find a buyer.

    Derby and Bury are 2 different animals

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    If they were due a points deduction for FFP which, in all likelihood would see them relegated, then it makes sense for them to enter administration aswell and take both deductions in the same season.
    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    I saw some journalist say if one deduction takes them down the other would be applied next season
    Just had a quick look at previous examples. Seems that a few clubs a few years ago entered administration once they knew they were relegated to take the hit in the same season. That loophole was closed so Leeds and Bournemouth for example had deductions over 2 seasons in 2 different leagues.

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    Potentially 21 point deduction then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    Potentially 21 point deduction then.
    My heart bleeds. Karma is a wonderful thing.

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